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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: yulzari on June 06, 2018, 08:41:55 PM
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Not an example of a particular Longrifle but I am in possession of an Italian made Longrifle style flintlock. Named the 'Kentuckian' and marked to 'Intercontinental Arms Inc.' All in excellent order although with a horrid shiny plastic varnish finish. A good example of the 'in the style of' a Longrifle.
(https://preview.ibb.co/me1tYT/CIMG1641.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eMwhSo)
(https://preview.ibb.co/cnOkf8/CIMG1640.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hBSBL8)
(https://preview.ibb.co/npBctT/CIMG1642.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jshT08)
(https://preview.ibb.co/gqJkf8/CIMG1643.jpg) (https://ibb.co/im2BL8)
The given calibre is 0,44". What diameter ball might be suitable?
I have seen these attributed to Pedersoli or to Armi Sport. Can anyone give a definitive name to the actual Italian manufacturer?
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Flintlocks of 44 caliber sold as the ‘Kentuckian’ model are usually made and/or marked as being from Euroarms, but others like Jager may sell/mark them too. Similar to how Investarms sold muzzleloading Rifles under the Cabelas brand name (no longer) and as a Lyman brand.
Usually a 0.433” roundball is used.
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I’ve seen that other name you mentioned too, so maybe one bought out the other. Maybe you could contact Euroarms here: http://www.euroarms.net/euroarms_netcompany_file/summary.htm
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Usually marked ahead of the lock:
(https://preview.ibb.co/iueSSo/A86_DF0_F4_DA96_4_F2_B_94_B8_C0474_F12600_C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cVa1no)
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Thank you Flint62Smoothie. That would be a ball to start with. There is nothing ahead of the lock on this one.
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My Dad has one that he got from DGW back in the 80's . It's a cap lock with a 35" barrel. It's a good shooting little rifle, locks on them aren't the best in the world. Id say it will serve you well.
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The main spring and the hammer spring are both somewhat over strong and trials show it is giving the flint a hard time but the lock functions adequately. A little retempering and /or thinning may be in order.
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Had one of these years ago. It was dolled up like an early Leman trade rifle, that had been in native ownership for quite some time. It had shallow rifling, but after some lock tuning, and relocating the pivot pin on the trigger, it shot quite well. It needed a swabbing every few shots, because of the shallow rifling, but was quite deadly out to a hundred yards.
Hungry Horse
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It's not a bad looking rifle and should serve as well as a fancy one. 8)
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Looks like what Dixie wascalling the "Cub" back in the day.
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Flint62, my twin, helped me sort out the issues we had with mine (now he has it to mess with...) which was marked as "EAA". I had to have the frizzen rehardened, the tail of the frizzen reshaped, polished all internals of the lock, filed the back of the lock plate smooth/flat, and we installed a touchhole insert.
All that helped, but I could never get more than 75% reliability and it just took all the FUN out of shooting a rocklock... So I almost quit shooting one...
Finally, at my brother's suggestion, I upgraded to a nicer flintlock (a used JP McCoy) and now I am much happier shooting a flintlock that fires near 100% of the time.
I did learn a lot from all the work and hours spent on that one -- but I hope yours sparks much better than mine did.
For your info, L&R's "Maslin #1" RPL Lock (RPL = "replacement lock") should fit that gun, with just slight modifications for the tail of the lockplate, but I decided not to go that route...
Good luck!
Old No7
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One has to take into consideration on how much a RPL lock will cost and how much the gun is worth. I put a RPL lock on a TC Renegade project, I used a new old stock barrel on the gun and a pile of collected parts but still had a bit more in the gun than it was worth because of the RPL lock cost.
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Thank you for the information Old No7 but the cost plus postage to France and import duty would be more than the original cost of the whole rifle. Useful to know what will fit though.