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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: yip on June 21, 2018, 02:30:27 AM
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looking for good fowler loads for a 62 cal using r/b and shot, any help?
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http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=49581.0
This was posted earlier
as were earlier post on round ball loads and whether or not to use wads or not.
Ed
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went to search but it didn't show nutt'n, sorry!!!!
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I would suggest you look at 20 bore modern shot-shell boxes, write down what those load "Equivelents" are. That will give you a good place to start. Start with, say trap or skeet loads and go from there into the hunting loads. Thus, 7/8+- oz and 2 1/4 +- drams is likely a good spot to start with. +- means just minor differences- exact is not important. Patterns are. With non-choked guns, some guys get better patterns with just using over-shot wads, not heavy wads- experimentation if your job to find what YOUR gun wants. Some guys get good results in non-choked guns with standard card and fiber wads.
Gr. Measure------Oz. of Shot
50-------------------3/4
60-------------------7/8
70-------------------1
80-------------------1 1/8
90-------------------1 1/4
100------------------1 3/8
110------------------1 1/2
120------------------1 5/8
For those interested in dram conversions- these are aproximate, usually rounded.
Note 1 pound = 7,000gr. 1 ounce = 1/16th of a pound - = 437.5gr. 1 Dram = 1/16th of an ounce = 27.3gr.
These are the charge weights as they pertain to old English as well as modern shotshell load designations on the boxes.
55gr. (54.6) = 2 drams
62gr. (61.5) = 2 1/4 drams
68gr. (68.3) = 2 1/2 drams
75gr. (75.0) = 2 3/4 drams
82gr. (81.9) = 3 drams
89gr. (88.8) = 3 1/4 drams (edited to correct the actual gr. #)
96gr. (95.5) = 3 1/2 drams
102gr. (102.4) = 3 3/4 drams
109gr. (109.2) = 4 drams
116gr. (116.0) = 4 1/4 drams
123gr. (122.9) = 4 1/2 drams
130gr. (129.7) = 4 3/4 drams
136gr. (135.5) = 5 drams
143gr. (143.3) = 5 1/4 drams
150gr. (150.2) = 5 1/2 drams
157gr. (157.0) = 5 3/4 drams
164gr. (163.8) = 6 drams
191gr. (191.1) = 7 drams
218gr. (218.4) = 8 drams
246gr. (245.7) = 9 drams
273gr. (273.0) = 10 drams
300gr. (300.3) = 11 drams
328gr. (327.6) = 12 drams
I have shot up to 12.1 drams in my .69 as an "accidental proof load" with one tightly patched round ball.
That was not fun, nor was it repeated.
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thanks Daryl
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You are most welcome, Yip.
I should have mentioned my ball load. I use 3 drams (82gr.) of 2f GOEX in my 20 bore with a tightly patched .595" ball. The bore is choked and is .615" for 1" at the muzzle. Once the patched ball is punched into the bore with the short starter, it is easily pushed down onto the powder. Even though quite easily pushed down, I assume the soft lead balls are obturating enough to seal. Recovered patches look good and are unburnt.
Taylor uses 85gr. 2F in his 20 bore with a tightly patched .600" ball.
Local friend Norm uses 85gr. 3F GOEX in his 20 bore with a .600" ball(I think) and a thick patch.
I will also note here that Norm is bloody difficult, nay impossible to best (I've not seen this happen) - it is his only gun and all he shoots - and shoots it a lot.
However, Taylor won the smoothbore trail with 0 misses last time it was run at Hefley Creek Rendezvous. Perhaps Norm didn't make that shoot??
(https://preview.ibb.co/nAOX78/AHunkeler20bore010_zps3e135d41.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bz6kS8)
(https://preview.ibb.co/d51Kn8/AHunkeler20bore015_zps38de83d6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bQiofT)
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thanks again Daryl, the information given helped!!!!!!!!!............yip