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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: cshirsch on July 24, 2018, 11:48:39 PM

Title: Original flintlock southern rifle
Post by: cshirsch on July 24, 2018, 11:48:39 PM: This is an interesting rifle from my collection. I found it in Houston many years ago. Anyone care to take a stab at what region is was built? I really like the trigger guard. I will be making a mold from that guard and have the parts cast in the future.
(https://preview.ibb.co/e9rFTo/1.png) (https://ibb.co/kBVW18)

(https://preview.ibb.co/mc8b18/2.png) (https://ibb.co/cOJyET)

(https://preview.ibb.co/iSReM8/3.png) (https://ibb.co/c2cVTo)

(https://preview.ibb.co/b4DWZT/4.png) (https://ibb.co/bLeS8o)

(https://preview.ibb.co/bZYyET/5.png) (https://ibb.co/dNZS8o)

(https://preview.ibb.co/gkhEoo/6.png) (https://ibb.co/fUGJET)
Title: Re: Original flintlock southern rifle
Post by: OldSouthRelics on July 25, 2018, 12:33:27 AM: Looks like good huntin' rifle. The puzzle piece barrel tang is weird and pleasing to my eye at the same time. .

Was/Is there a buttplate?

Interesting rifle. I'm sorry I can't add anything regarding its identity.
Title: Re: Original flintlock southern rifle
Post by: cshirsch on July 25, 2018, 12:35:19 AM: Never had a butt plate
Title: Re: Original flintlock southern rifle
Post by: WadePatton on July 25, 2018, 02:02:41 AM: I think I'd call that one "Uvula". ;D

Thanks for posting. I like learning all I can every time I can, so I'm mostly here for the "ride" to see all the various opinions on the gun.
Title: Re: Original flintlock southern rifle
Post by: PrairieD on July 25, 2018, 05:40:00 AM: Very nice! I do like the trigger guard & the "puzzle piece" tang also -- when you get around making the castings, I would be interested in a copy of that trigger guard!

Now I'm going to sit back & listen to the opinions!
Title: Re: Original flintlock southern rifle
Post by: Hungry Horse on July 25, 2018, 05:06:21 PM: The quality of the triggerguard, and the fit, and finish, of the gun in general, points to a fine craftsman. Likely this was the entry level rifle made by a known gunsmith. The long comb, and short wrist, along with the fabulous triggerguard, have a North Carolina feel to me. Probably somewhere near the center of the state.

Hungry Horse
Title: Re: Original flintlock southern rifle
Post by: Mike Brooks on July 25, 2018, 06:23:53 PM: Quote from: Hungry Horse on July 25, 2018, 05:06:21 PM
The quality of the triggerguard, and the fit, and finish, of the gun in general, points to a fine craftsman. Likely this was the entry level rifle made by a known gunsmith. The long comb, and short wrist, along with the fabulous triggerguard, have a North Carolina feel to me. Probably somewhere near the center of the state.

Hungry Horse
Probably Bear Creek.
Title: Re: Original flintlock southern rifle
Post by: BOB HILL on July 28, 2018, 03:54:40 AM: Looks N.C. To me, also. Fine looking guard.
Bob
Title: Re: Original flintlock southern rifle
Post by: Arcturus on July 28, 2018, 07:09:00 AM: I would also guess piedmont NC for this nice rifle, and yes, that is a very nice triggerguard. I like the downward angle slope of the griprail; looks comfortable and reminds me of the F. Klette Virginia rifle and several other NC rifles I've seen.
Title: Re: Original flintlock southern rifle
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 28, 2018, 04:26:08 PM: The guard bears a resemblance to the Bogle rifle, similar but different.

(https://preview.ibb.co/bKXAKT/trigger_guard.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hjcczT)
Title: Re: Original flintlock southern rifle
Post by: bgf on July 28, 2018, 11:05:59 PM: Reminded me of the whale rifle in the quality of the iron and filework, a single trigger, and the iconoclastic nature of the tang shape. http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=4004.0

No assertion of connection (doubt) there is one, but I think the quality of work on this one is comparable, just less of it.
Title: Re: Original flintlock southern rifle
Post by: wildcatter on July 30, 2018, 05:29:31 AM: Neat rifle, thanks for sharing.

Matt