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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: cshirsch on August 04, 2018, 05:10:23 PM

Title: Joseph Long rifle
Post by: cshirsch on August 04, 2018, 05:10:23 PM
Sharing my Joseph Long rifle.  It was originally flintlock and is in pretty much 'in the black' condition.
(https://preview.ibb.co/gVhqFe/long1.png) (https://ibb.co/mOuRoz)

(https://preview.ibb.co/ci3GMK/long2.png) (https://ibb.co/hzQkFe)

(https://preview.ibb.co/cMAKae/long3.png) (https://ibb.co/icXnTz)

(https://preview.ibb.co/ehVP8z/long4.png) (https://ibb.co/fOpvFe)

(https://preview.ibb.co/nJ1xTz/long5.png) (https://ibb.co/kjhhve)
Title: Re: Joseph Long rifle
Post by: fundukj on August 04, 2018, 09:21:59 PM
Now that's a pretty rifle!
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Post by: rennikselum on August 05, 2018, 04:48:02 PM
Thanks for sharing... I have one to complete sometime in the near future.

Jeff
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Post by: n stephenson on August 06, 2018, 01:58:01 AM
That`s the kind of specimens , we like to see ! Thanks for sharing!
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Post by: jdm on August 06, 2018, 02:13:15 AM
Very few Joe Longs were made flint. Nice in the black gun. Thanks for posting.
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Post by: JTR on August 06, 2018, 11:44:50 PM
Very nice rifle from him, and very typical for him!
Given he was a late-ish maker he didn't carve or engrave much, but did on a few rifles. But it seems he always made a nice looking gun with enough flourishes to keep them interesting.
Thanks for sharing!
John
Title: Re: Joseph Long rifle
Post by: Stoner creek on August 07, 2018, 02:33:25 AM
Here’s my Joe Long gun.
(https://preview.ibb.co/bxyXYz/AEB52066_63_C2_414_F_94_BC_92_E2_F9_B2_E6_A9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bCPT6K)

(https://preview.ibb.co/drdS0e/AD285_CB7_3_DC0_426_F_8_D21_DF14_E488_F6_ED.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eOE0Le)

(https://preview.ibb.co/d5mfLe/71_B6187_D_32_A3_4_C77_A5_A1_7_DBB40_F5_C836.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iM79Dz)

aluminium sulphate ph (https://aluminumsulfate.net/uses-of-aluminum-sulfate)

(https://preview.ibb.co/k6Ny6K/7066_AEB8_B0_A9_4_FBD_875_C_74037_C312_E5_E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jTn9Dz)

(https://preview.ibb.co/mxfXGK/1_CED6_C91_6_B88_4_B01_B804_EA58_AEFC596_B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iFdKwK)
The barrel has been shortened. There’s a lot of evidence that this one was flint at some period of it’s life.
Title: Re: Joseph Long rifle
Post by: cshirsch on August 08, 2018, 01:07:16 AM
nice, thanks for sharing
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Post by: cshirsch on August 08, 2018, 01:07:52 AM
nice, thanks for sharing

Does it have two lock screws?
Title: Re: Joseph Long rifle
Post by: Stoner creek on August 08, 2018, 01:19:13 AM
One screw.
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Post by: okieboy on August 08, 2018, 06:50:58 AM
 Thanks for sharing. I like plainer rifles and this looks great to me.
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Post by: cshirsch on August 08, 2018, 05:53:42 PM
My rifle has two lock screws. 
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Post by: bcowern on August 09, 2018, 04:10:27 AM
My rifle has two lock screws.

Nice looking Joe Long rifle. I like that it hasn't been polished up.

What does the washer look like for the other lock screw?

Regards,
bcowern
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Post by: BOB HILL on August 09, 2018, 05:07:29 AM
Fine looking rifle, Chris. Thanks for sharing.
Bob
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Post by: Loudy on August 09, 2018, 04:26:50 PM
Chris,
Thank you very much for posting photos of your Joe Long rifle.  Great looking example of his work.  If possible, please post a photo of the sideplate area of your rifle.  Two lock bolt JL guns are rare has hen's teeth.  I would also be interested to see a photo of the toeplate area.  As mentioned earlier, JL guns with original flintlock are not typical.  Perhaps your gun is one of his earlier guns?  Maybe, his client was just an old-timer that didn't take to the new-fangled percussion cap technology? 

Stoner Creek,
Thank you also posting photos of your rifle.  Is that a push button release on the patchbox lid?  I believe I see a button protruding from the toeplate.  This would also be an unusual feature for a Joe Long gun.  Most, maybe all, of the other Joe Long guns I've seen have the typical Upper Susquehanna lid release that goes through a hole in the back of the buttplate, like the one seen on Chris's gun.   

Mark     
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Post by: Stoner creek on August 09, 2018, 04:28:48 PM
Yes sir. That’s a toe release.
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Post by: BOB HILL on August 09, 2018, 06:30:43 PM
Great photos. Thanks for posting.  PM sent.
Bob
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Post by: cshirsch on August 09, 2018, 09:38:28 PM
Great photos. Thanks for posting.  PM sent.
Bob

I tried to reply to your PM, twice.  Not sure what's going on there.  Do you have any specific questions about the Bartell rifle?
Title: Re: Joseph Long rifle
Post by: cshirsch on August 09, 2018, 11:00:10 PM
Chris,
Thank you very much for posting photos of your Joe Long rifle.  Great looking example of his work.  If possible, please post a photo of the sideplate area of your rifle.  Two lock bolt JL guns are rare has hen's teeth.  I would also be interested to see a photo of the toeplate area.  As mentioned earlier, JL guns with original flintlock are not typical.  Perhaps your gun is one of his earlier guns?  Maybe, his client was just an old-timer that didn't take to the new-fangled percussion cap technology? 

Stoner Creek,
Thank you also posting photos of your rifle.  Is that a push button release on the patchbox lid?  I believe I see a button protruding from the toeplate.  This would also be an unusual feature for a Joe Long gun.  Most, maybe all, of the other Joe Long guns I've seen have the typical Upper Susquehanna lid release that goes through a hole in the back of the buttplate, like the one seen on Chris's gun.   

Mark   

I'll take a few more photos and post them soon
Title: Re: Joseph Long rifle
Post by: Hurricane ( of Virginia) on August 09, 2018, 11:31:00 PM
Here are 4 more Joseph Longs rifles.

http://hurricanenordgallery.com/index.php?topic=21.0

HUrricane
Title: Re: Joseph Long rifle
Post by: BOB HILL on August 10, 2018, 04:15:31 AM
Thanks, Chris. PM came through that time. I was probably doing something wrong. Not much with these things. I would love to see some more photos of the Bartell rifle when you get a chance. There is absolutely no hurry. Thanks again.
Bob