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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: Elnathan on August 17, 2018, 07:02:09 PM

Title: Kindig 172
Post by: Elnathan on August 17, 2018, 07:02:09 PM

Anyone got any more information on it, or any ideas were I might find some? It is a really nice rifle, fairly early (1770s or '80s I'd guess) but since Shumway didn't include it in RCA it seems to have been largely overlooked. One thing of interest to me is that the barrel seems to have a fairly small breech with a subtle swamp rather than the big-breech, rapid taper that seems more typical of early barrels, but it is really hard to be sure from photographs.

Title: Re: Kindig 172
Post by: Elnathan on August 21, 2018, 06:58:10 PM

So, no one has any additional info? No comments?

Title: Re: Kindig 172
Post by: rich pierce on August 21, 2018, 07:23:18 PM

I will try to look tonight. To whom is it attributed?

Title: Re: Kindig 172
Post by: Elnathan on August 21, 2018, 08:00:14 PM

Quote from: rich pierce on August 21, 2018, 07:23:18 PM

I will try to look tonight. To whom is it attributed?

Jacob Sell "the Elder.*" Wooden box, flat buttplate, silver thumbpiece set into the comb right in front of the buttplate return, and really nice carving.

*It is my understanding that there was only one Jacob Sell, but he changed his style so much over the years that Kindig believed that there were two men of that name.

Title: Re: Kindig 172
Post by: rich pierce on August 22, 2018, 06:55:41 PM

The flat buttplate suggests an early date, 1770s to 1780s to me.  It has an octagonal barrel 42” long and 52 caliber, and weighs 8 and 3/4 pounds.  A C weight barrel of that length and caliber would seem to give that weight to a rifle. 

Title: Re: Kindig 172
Post by: Willbarq on August 23, 2018, 03:22:42 AM

Quote from: Elnathan on August 21, 2018, 06:58:10 PM

So, no one has any additional info? No comments?

  Id be interested in doing that one. -  I like it.  Imagine as really fancy wood....

Title: Re: Kindig 172
Post by: brokenflint on August 27, 2018, 03:05:34 AM

can we get a photo of it?

Title: Re: Kindig 172
Post by: rich pierce on August 27, 2018, 03:13:29 AM

Quote from: brokenflint on August 27, 2018, 03:05:34 AM

can we get a photo of it?

I’m never sure about copyright issues.

Title: Re: Kindig 172
Post by: Elnathan on August 27, 2018, 03:30:01 AM

Quote from: brokenflint on August 27, 2018, 03:05:34 AM

can we get a photo of it?

I don't have a scanner, so I can't do it.

Title: Re: Kindig 172
Post by: rich pierce on August 27, 2018, 05:21:35 AM

Taken care of