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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: David Rase on January 13, 2019, 08:06:31 PM
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Been wanting to build a side by side for a long time. Finally got started. Got the breech plugs made, fit and installed and the tang rough milled out. Hopefully today I will get the hooked breeches mated to the tang. Then I need to ream and hone the chokes out of the bores so it can be loaded from the muzzle. It is looking like I will have pretty close to equal amounts of time just building the barrel assembly as in stocking the gun.
David
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Wow!, David - you have some hard work ahead!
How are those barrels joined?
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David - Whatcha using for barrels? I suspect i, and many others, will be asking more "whatcha" type questions. I am subscribed to this thread
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This is a great project. Please keep us posted as you proceed.
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Dave - did you take pictures of the fabrication of the breach plugs and barrel breach area - I find that to be the most interesting of the barrel build up. Looks like you did a nice job of it.
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This is a great project. Please keep us posted as you proceed.
I agree With Taylor . I look forward to following Your progess. A lot for us to learn from you.
Best regards
Rolf
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Looking forward to it, and it's a long term goal of mine to build one also.
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Great start, David! Now I know who I can hire to do double breech plugs 😬....
Ed
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Taylor,
I will keep you guys posted on the progress, as long as you have patience. I have an Isaac Haines I am finishing up for a customer, an Allentown that I am inletting the barrel, drilling the ramrod, inletting the lock and triggers and band saw profiling the stock for a client and a broken wrist repair for someone else. Once these projects are out of the way the side by side will start to move right along. I wanted to build and inlet the barrels just to get that chore out of the way.
Tom,
I had a set of modern 20g barrels made in Spain that I started with.
Paul,
I will post some pictures of the fixture I made to hold the breech plugs as well as the breech plugs. I have to pull the plugs a few more times to ream and hone the choke out of the muzzle as well as finish drilling the powder chamber holes to the correct depth once I locate the touch holes and then to case color harden. I will be breeching up a couple more sets of barrels in a couple of months and will document the process in more detail. This first set was a lot of seat of the pants engineering.
Ed,
I should get more proficient at doing this as I have a couple more sets of double barrels I have been collecting that I plan on breeching and possibly putting up for sale.
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Very nice job David! Just the kind of stuff that makes my mouth water.... ;D Sending you a PM.
Curtis
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Good luck! I built 5 of those and swore them off for ever. I'm sure yours will be a dandy. Don't sell it, you'll regret it for ever.
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Know very little about building flint S x Ss but noticed the long breechplugs.....will they be patent breeches? Keep us posted on your progress.....Fred
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Dave,
You have just proved you are smarter than I am! My flintlock double is a French gun made with two barrels I got from Robert Hoyt. It took me 5 tries to get the barrels soldered together right!
I got delayed for a year by other things in life but I am now finding the time to continue the project. I am almost ready to start the carving and engraving so you will probably be done with yours before I am done with mine.
Doubles are a "challenge".
Have fun!
Best Regards,
JMC
John Cholin
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I have a set of old barrels that were given to me by a shooting buddy...and a good friend with a full-blown CNC machine shop...you really shouldn't be giving me ideas like this...
Now, the wheels are spinning...I just hope the hamster hasn't died...
Greg
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Dave.
Did you cut those barrels off above the forcing cones or did you make some plugs to fit the cones???
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Paul,
I will post some pictures of the fixture I made to hold the breech plugs as well as the breech plugs. I have to pull the plugs a few more times to ream and hone the choke out of the muzzle as well as finish drilling the powder chamber holes to the correct depth once I locate the touch holes and then to case color harden. I will be breeching up a couple more sets of barrels in a couple of months and will document the process in more detail. This first set was a lot of seat of the pants engineering.
Ireally look forward to that tutorial.
Best regards
Rolf
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David R. - ainčt it great to be retired, with all that "just for me-time". LOL
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Dave.
Did you cut those barrels off above the forcing cones or did you make some plugs to fit the cones???
Jerry,
I reamed the taper out of the forcing cones and then threaded the chambers with a taper tap and finished threading them with a modified bottoming tap. This gave me the slightest shoulder to seat the breech plug face on.
David
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David R. - ainčt it great to be retired, with all that "just for me-time". LOL
Yep Daryl, I am living the dream. Apprentice number 2 is due to arrive the first week in March. I have not got apprentice #1 trained yet and he just turned 3. It's all good.
David
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LOL- wonderful news, congratulations.
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Got to spend some time on the double barrel today. I was able to install the tang onto the hooked breeches and rough file the tang. I also installed an extension on my reamer and built a guide so I can remove the chokes so the barrels can be loaded from the muzzle. I have my hones standing by after the reaming is complete. Hoping to get the barrels inlet this week but I have 7 to do for clients.
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Looks great. Did you make the standing breech? If so, from what?
Best regards
Rolf
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David,
In my experience, after you ream the choke out the reamer finish may be fine, a mirror finish isn't needed for a shotgun to shoot excellent patterns. Lowell Tennyson leaves a lot of machine marks in his jug and they shoot fine. Of course some folks just can't live with machine marks....so expect you'll hone yours out anyway. ;)
I used to make my standing breeches out of ginormous angle iron. Cut it out with a freakin' hacksaw. Good Lord I'm starting to have waking nightmares just thinking about it. :o I'm glad I quit making those things, everything about them is pure drudgery.
You go ahead and have fun, I'll watch! ;D
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Looks great. Did you make the standing breech? If so, from what?
Best regards
Rolf
Rolf,
Because I have a milling machine in my shop I was able to mill the standing breech out of a piece of 1018 bar stock.
David
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Nice job, David. Bringing it to Hefley this year?
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Nice job, David. Bringing it to Hefley this year?
I'm not bringing it but maybe the new owner will since he attends Hefley regularly.
David
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Ah HA! Great!