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Title: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: Tim on July 20, 2019, 03:09:21 AM
This is a question for the guys that use a wire wheel to card their barrels.
Do I need the 2 row or the 4 row carding wheel that Brownells sells?
They just got the 2 row wheel back in stock.

Tim
Title: Re: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: BJH on July 20, 2019, 04:18:19 AM
I use a wire wheel, mine is just a fine wire wheel I bought at a local hardware store. Not anything exotic like the ones at brownells.
Title: Re: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: helwood on July 20, 2019, 04:45:55 AM
Greetings,
Check out Rio Grande:   Part No.338222 -- Brush, Steel Wire,4" Diameter, 4Rows.  Very Good, I bought several and have been using them for some time.
Good Luck.        Hank
Title: Re: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: David Rase on July 20, 2019, 07:23:45 AM
Like BJH, I also use a hardware store variety fine wire wheel.   In fact I just bought a replacement .006" wire wheel today at a garage sale for $2.00.  I mount my wheel on a threaded rod and chuck it up in my variable speed Jet 12" wood lathe.  Best slow speed motor I have in the shop.

To answer your question, I have had a 4 row .0025" Brownells wheel sitting in my shop for probably 20 years and never used it.  Looking at it, and this is just my opinion, I think a 2 row wheel would be too soft.  I think the additional 2 rows in the 4 row wheel adds a bit of needed rigidity.  I should probably mount it up sometime and give it a try. 
David
Title: Re: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: snapper on July 20, 2019, 03:09:36 PM
I have the 4 row from Brownells and would buy it again.

Never tried the 2 row.

Fleener
Title: Re: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: 45-110 on July 20, 2019, 03:31:16 PM
I have used the Brownells wheel for years on many barrels and it works fine.  You just need to figure out what is the  best rpm for your rust/blue endeavor. Every so often spray it with brake cleaner to keep it clean.
kw
Title: Re: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on July 20, 2019, 07:10:17 PM
I bought the carding wheel from Brownell's many years ago, and made the mistake right off the start, of putting it on my bench grinder.  TOO FAST!!  It threw a few of it's bristles before I got it stopped.
But now I just put it on my drill press at 500 rpm, and it works well. It gives a lovely burnish to a rust bled barrel.
Title: Re: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: jerrywh on July 20, 2019, 08:41:22 PM
I prefer the 4 row and I use it on my drill press as Taylor does. I run it at below 1200rpm
Title: Re: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: Roger B on July 21, 2019, 12:46:04 AM
I've always used oil free steel wool or Scotchbrite pads. What is the advantage of a wheel?
Roger B.
Title: Re: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: Tim on July 21, 2019, 01:28:37 AM
I appreciate all of the great information you guys shared with me.
The wheel from Rio Grande sounds like a winner as I also need some
Sterling silver for my inlays and I can get both at Rio Grande.
You guys are the best!

Tim
Title: Re: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: jerrywh on July 21, 2019, 03:36:12 AM
The type of wheel is important. Brownells wheels are made of wire that is .003 in diameter. Tat is important because they will not damage the barrel.  courser wire might do damage. Rio Grande doesn't have a 6" wheel. I prefer the 6" wheel because it give a softer brush. and won;t take the brown off of the corners
Title: Re: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: David Rase on July 21, 2019, 05:07:20 AM
I've always used oil free steel wool or Scotchbrite pads. What is the advantage of a wheel?
Roger B.
Roger,
I like a wheel over steel wool because a wheel removes all the built up surface rust and leaves you with a smooth metal surface with only the color showing in lieu of a crust.  The first couple of times you card off the brown with a wire wheel you will lose most of your color.  Subsequent applications and cardings will show more color.  I continue to apply and card until the corners of the flats remain colored then I apply one more coat and card.  I figure when the wire wheel will not remove the color, normal wear and tear will not either.
David
Title: Re: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: Roger B on July 21, 2019, 05:24:55 AM
Thanks! I learned something!
Roger B.
Title: Re: Carding Wheel from Brownells
Post by: smallpatch on July 21, 2019, 06:31:43 PM
Dave,
I have always used the Drixell scratch wheel that Brownells sells.  Like Jerry said, only removes the scale and surface rust.  Leaves a nice smooth surface without breaking through the edges.
They are 1" wide, so you can run with the flat instead of across.