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General discussion => Contemporary Longrifle Collecting => Topic started by: chuckd121 on July 23, 2019, 03:14:41 AM

Title: H.C. Bourne - .40 cal Hawken
Post by: chuckd121 on July 23, 2019, 03:14:41 AM

I am trying to identify the value of the following muzzleloader. Built by H.C. Bourne, Hilliard O. 1963; has a W.M. Large .40cal barrel, Roller Lock & set trigger; curley maple stock; 12" length of pull;  44' overall length
Any info would be helpful (pics attached)
(https://i.ibb.co/DKmcDNP/IMG-7761.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ryq8GgK)

(https://i.ibb.co/Yt7rXsN/IMG-7763.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WcWT0JH)

(https://i.ibb.co/0rdt9mk/IMG-7765.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6FfBtr2)

(https://i.ibb.co/dMqgh5h/IMG-7766.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fF5vcxc)

(https://i.ibb.co/PW84drv/IMG-7770.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rpJMVQR)

(https://i.ibb.co/djB00jV/IMG-7771.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tQBMMQv)

(https://i.ibb.co/BrKf5kk/IMG-7773.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b2R6Mtt)

Title: Re: H.C. Bourne - .40 cal Hawken
Post by: rich pierce on July 23, 2019, 03:48:10 AM

Because it’s far from a close copy of an original Hawken rifle, to me, it’s value is as a shooter with a Bill Large barrel.  If the barrel is pristine, some target shooters might pay $400.

Title: Re: H.C. Bourne - .40 cal Hawken
Post by: Hungry Horse on July 23, 2019, 06:13:00 AM

The individual parts art more valuable than the complete gun. It’s an unfortunate compilation of mismatched parts, stocked in a beautiful piece of wood, reflecting a non traditional stock style.

  Hungry Horse

Title: Re: H.C. Bourne - .40 cal Hawken
Post by: okieboy on July 23, 2019, 08:02:26 AM

 Is that a "Roller" lock signed on the outside?

Title: Re: H.C. Bourne - .40 cal Hawken
Post by: chuckd121 on July 23, 2019, 02:21:42 PM

Yes - that is what I have been told

Title: Re: H.C. Bourne - .40 cal Hawken
Post by: chuckd121 on July 24, 2019, 06:32:55 PM

Hungry Horse  -  any idea what the parts would be worth  -  thanks  -  Chuck

Title: Re: H.C. Bourne - .40 cal Hawken
Post by: Bob Roller on July 26, 2019, 12:48:00 AM

Quote from: okieboy on July 23, 2019, 08:02:26 AM

Is that a "Roller" lock signed on the outside?

Maybe it's one of mine.In the long gone past I made a few square tail locks copied
from a gun made in Western Ohio but do not recall marking them externally but
that style of metal stencil was at one time a common hardware store item and I still
use mine a lot. HH is right,an odd breeding of barrel,lock and trigger by an obscure maker.

Bob Roller
Modified on 2 August 2019. There is NO mainspring upper leaf pin showing so I am
thinking this is bogus.

Bob Roller

Title: Re: H.C. Bourne - .40 cal Hawken
Post by: Daryl on August 14, 2019, 04:02:36 AM

Coil spring on a cast plate, Bob?