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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Adrie luke on July 31, 2019, 08:44:05 PM
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Hi,
Hans Muller is also a member of ALR and lives also in The Netherlands.
Sometimes I visit him and show him the rifles I made on scale.
Hans is older and not longer very strong.
Two weeks ago I visited him and he asked me to make the barrel in the stock in his Jaeger rifle,
he started to build some time ago.
For me it is the first time I hold such a rifle on full scale.
It is easier to work with than the ones I build on scale.
He told me the story of this rifle and some things of his live, that are great story's to hear.
Adrie
(https://i.ibb.co/bPp12KD/DSC00828.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kxYK9Sv)
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I have made the barrel in the stock and will look what else I can do.
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The Flintlock is made by Korte from Amsterdam.
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(https://i.ibb.co/99n6rLK/DSC00847.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DD4hRyc)
Hans had also some drawings, he allowed me to copy them.
He had a drawing of an old lock on full scale.
I share the drawing with you.
(https://i.ibb.co/d6dQB48/Clipboard01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FJSB64R)
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Very interesting. Nice work on the barrel inlet. Thanks for posting
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Interesting project, Andre. I will enjoy watching this as all of your threads. Thank You.
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Yes, I tried to lift too much hay with the pitchfork and at 86 I paid the cost of that....Fortunately, I have a few good friends . And for the long rifles I am very fortunate to have met Adrie, who is truly a master with file and chisel.
High on my bucket list was recreating a Jaeger, using original parts, and it was here that Adrie stepped in. (Another item on that list is an old WW2 motorcycle, but that’s perhaps a subject for “Over the Back Fence”)
A few details about that Jaeger; the barrel is an original twist steel one, I picked up in Yemen, some 25 years ago, together with a few very long matchlock barrels. I proof-fired it behind the house with a double charge of black powder and two balls, no problem. The rifling however is in a very sorry state, but freshing the barrel was programmed to be done after I retired 20 years ago....
The lock is an original flintlock made by Gaspar Korte, who was active in Amsterdam around 1820. The steel furniture: butt plate, trigger guard, ramrod pipes, are from TotW, also ordered decades ago...
Now about the Law; here in the Netherlands you can’t make a new flintlock, cap lock or even a matchlock without a licence, and there are strict rules for such a licence. So no market here for Jim Kibler and his kits... But since barrel and lock are old and original, no problem!
Needless to say that I am grateful Adrie was aware of my problems, and he did the inletting in a few days where I had failed . Thanks Adrie !
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Sorry to hear you've wounded yourself, DutchGramps. Thank you for the explanation on the building of this piece.
Years ago, 1989, the Chief of Police from Amsterdam told me of the gun laws in your county. He and some of the
foremen from Amsterdam were attending the World Police and Fire Games in B.C. I got to speak to most of them.
Good men.(but not good shots)
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Hans and I met through this site, and have exchanged email and stuff for several years. I'm delighted that you are finally getting to your rifle, Hans, and am anxious to see it completed.
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Yes, I tried to lift too much hay with the pitchfork and at 86 I paid the cost of that....Fortunately, I have a few good friends . And for the long rifles I am very fortunate to have met Adrie, who is truly a master with file and chisel.
High on my bucket list was recreating a Jaeger, using original parts, and it was here that Adrie stepped in. (Another item on that list is an old WW2 motorcycle, but that’s perhaps a subject for “Over the Back Fence”)
A few details about that Jaeger; the barrel is an original twist steel one, I picked up in Yemen, some 25 years ago, together with a few very long matchlock barrels. I proof-fired it behind the house with a double charge of black powder and two balls, no problem. The rifling however is in a very sorry state, but freshing the barrel was programmed to be done after I retired 20 years ago....
The lock is an original flintlock made by Gaspar Korte, who was active in Amsterdam around 1820. The steel furniture: butt plate, trigger guard, ramrod pipes, are from TotW, also ordered decades ago...
Now about the Law; here in the Netherlands you can’t make a new flintlock, cap lock or even a matchlock without a licence, and there are strict rules for such a licence. So no market here for Jim Kibler and his kits... But since barrel and lock are old and original, no problem!
Needless to say that I am grateful Adrie was aware of my problems, and he did the inletting in a few days where I had failed . Thanks Adrie !
So, in theory you could use any antique lock and barrel to build a gun without restrictions? Pistols as well?
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Hi,
Last Saturday I brought the Jaeger back to Hans Muller.
He asked me to put the barrel in the stock, only the barrel tang was a lot of work and difficult for me.
He gave me the Flintlock for the measures, but I was so enthusiastic that I made the lock in the stock for him.
I also made the side plate from an old piece of messing.
Now I am sure that the lock bolts are in the right place.
I did what I could do, the rest is for Hans. Later on I will help him whit things for the Jaeger.
Adrie
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That is going to be a great gun!!
Best regards
Rolf
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Nice project. I’d have done a lot of shaping before defining and finalizing the lock panels or engraved the sideplate. What is the web thickness at the muzzle?
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The stock needs to be all round before you put your carved lock panels on. You're going to end up very square in that area. Read my tutorial, you might find it helpful.
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The panels are still too large, so Hans can shape up the stock around the lock and eliminate the incised carving in that process. He should be able to work around the side plate without damaging the engraving. Good luck Hans and stay at it my friend.
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As a follow up to my post, here's how I did mine...
(https://i.ibb.co/PxrM05G/Lockand-Undersideof-Lock.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VVLx5vY)
(https://i.ibb.co/dJCPkjw/DSCN5931.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R4r3QYk)
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Nice tight panels, and the incised line at the foot of the rise really sets them up nicely. Beautiful Jaeger!
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Mike Brooks,
I have already read your tutorial, thanks.
Hans will finish the rifle and make everything in the right shape.
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This week I took courage, and tried to do some work in the garage. That 1800-something barrel had already been a bit draw-filed, and yesterday I did some etching with copper sulphate; results revealed a nice, simple Damast pattern, nothing fancy, just what I like for everyday use by a game warden in the first half of the 19th century.
But I have second thoughts about the furniture: iron or brass? All the iron I already have, but for brass I lack a typical Jaeger trigger guard in malleable 67/33 brass; where can I find one ?
(https://i.ibb.co/QYC73KQ/Damast-Jaeger-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nQnqNLm)
(https://i.ibb.co/4SnBPHD/Damast-Jaeger-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2M1XgTL)
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That's a great barrel. What do you consider a "typical" Jeager trigger guard to look like?
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Hans,
That looks great!
If you want to use the iron I will copy the brass side plate in iron for you.
It will be a great Jaeger!
You hear from me when we are back from the U.S.
Adrie
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Hi,
Hans Muller gave me a trigger guard, but to tell the truth he wanted an other one.
I found on the internet what he wanted and I changed the trigger guard he gave me into what he wanted.
(https://i.ibb.co/qDG4KD7/DSC01148.png) (https://ibb.co/yNTMtNd)
(https://i.ibb.co/3FdFJ7G/DSC01149.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5j4j76t)
(https://i.ibb.co/GsPcWH6/DSC01150.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZHTWB2j)
Hans has not worked on the Jaeger any more and I picked it up and drilled the ramrod hole,
installed the bud plate and cut out and filed a lot of wood.
This is no longer a hobby, this is hard working!
Later I will cut out more wood.
(https://i.ibb.co/jMbKm4b/DSC01158.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7WjcPyj)
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Nice work, Andre.
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This post holds an enormous value for all of us. Please keep it and all the pics going, folks.
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This is no longer a hobby, this is hard working!
Over here, this is what we call "a labor of Love". Great work on a really neat project.
We Americans take too much for granted,
Best regards, Dave F in WVa 8) 8)
Always fascinated by your work.
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Hello,
For me the Jaeger is ready, so I show you the final pictures.
I also made the bolts and the silver front sight.
Hans Muller has to color the rifle and buy some ramrod pipes.
This is how Hans wanted his Jaeger, no carving.
Now I realize that I build my first real rifle.
Thanks for all the help!
Greetings,
Adrie
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Do you have any access to original jeagers you can compare to? Having an old one in hand would be a great help to get the architecture right as you're building.
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Mike,
Hans Mulller gave me this drawing from Track and Wolff as an example.
This is the way he likes his rifle to be.
(https://i.ibb.co/z8tZ1dm/Clipboard01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DGjQNd1)
The stock has a natural round, but it fits well.
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this will be gorgeous when done.
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Hello Adrie luke,
you have a lot of stills, but I think the same like Mike Brooks you must handle a original jeager the architecture looks not correctly to me. Also the area under the lock is wrong I think.
I have five original jeager rifles in my collection which I just looked at again if you had them in hand would you recognize it immediately. I would be glad to see the rifle completely finished
sometimes everything looks quite different on a finished one.
Monty
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Hello Monto
All my respect to Mike Brooks and for all the help I get
Is this what you main? [picture].
Is it possible you sent me some pictures of what you mean by pm?
Thanks, Adrie
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You do some excellent work, and this is a great project, but I am with the others about your architecture.
For me, the most glaring issue are your lock panels, they should be transitioned without the cut in steps all around them. They should flow to the wrist, and to the trigger, right from the lock panel edge. I have circled in red what I mean in the picture. It's hard to explain, but should look something like the other picture.
(https://i.ibb.co/mJxZr7m/DSC01194.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CBrCpFq)
(https://i.ibb.co/ggJMHmJ/9644303-orig.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZTx6tGx)
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Is this the good way?
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(https://i.ibb.co/5nCZG6j/DSC01219.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QCh0pfH)
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now that looks much better !
Monty
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Much better!
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Adrie,
Nice work on your first full scale rifle!
I think there is still some work that could be done on around the lock, and lock panels. It's hard to tell from the pictures.
I also wonder if there is more wood that needs to be removed from the forestock.
Will you still have it when I see you on New Year's Day? I'd like to look at it and see if I can help with the shaping of the stock. I'm not an expert on Jaegers at all, but I think I can help you get close.
Cheers,
Norm
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Mike,
I hide myself by saying "I help Hans".
You are right, when you do something you have to do it good.
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Norm,
I do not have the ramrod pipes, Hans has to order these.
When I have these ramrod pipes and fit them in, than I can remove more wood from the forestock.
I see you New Years' Day and than we will talk about everything.
Greetings, Adrie.
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Adrie,
sounds good, I look forward to seeing you!
Your carving looks very nice.
Norm
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Hi Adrie: may I make a constructive critique? Forward of the lock, the stock of the forearm appears to be squarish. Wood should be removed along the bottom third to give the stock an egg shaped appearance and feel. Then the rounded stock gets blended into the lock panel and trigger guard area. It will also amplify your lock panels and give the whole rifle an overall grace that is missing now. I hope these images help...
If you click on the picture, twice, it will enlarge considerably.
(https://i.ibb.co/DpGMT3Z/DSCN0442.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PQTW0Bd)
(https://i.ibb.co/pKVDbCB/DSCN1055.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3F6X4t9)
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It is indeed a work of art, and I am so happy that Adrie has stepped in to finish what I barely started. Otherwise, those nice parts would have ended probably in the skip when I kicked the bucket....
The only parts missing are the ramrod pipes; I ordered from TotW catalogue 17, RP-JAEG-E-7-B and F-7-B but they are no longer available. Now my question: what type of entry and forward pipes would be a correct replacement?
Coming Saturday Adrie will visit me, and we will discuss what finish will be used; I have some experience with the old Dutch army finish: alkanet root boiled in linseed oil, but any suggestions are welcome.
Hans
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Tom Curran (Acer Sack-o-rum) had a really nice set ... perhaps he can help?
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https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=12514.0
This is a nice one!
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I like Jaegers and I have made quite a few of them. The shape Taylor is speaking of is easy to make, but you have to understand what is needed. The "cheek" of the stock (wisest part of the round or oval) Should be at or very slightly above the level of the bottom of the barrel. So if the pins are touching the bottom of that barrel the "cheek" should run right through the pin holes or about 1/16" above them. Not below and the cheek should be something you can easily see and "put a finger on". If the gun has a bit too much square shape you'll find the "cheek" is not distinct.
Here are a few pics. As you can see, in looking a pictures it very hard to see this cheek that I speak of, In most cases the sides of the hand-rail section of ther stock looks flatter then it is on the gun. I have seen this in most pictures, including those done in the books we buy. But if you look at the lock moldings and in your minds eye see the widest part of the stock NOT coming from the center of the molding, but coming out of that molding in line with the pin holes you'll start to understand what I am trying to say. It's very hard to show it with a picture.
I hope they are helpful. Maybe not, but This description and these pics are about all I can try without putting an actual gun in your hands.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48348710257_702b2ee69c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gEpM7H)Image-32 (https://flic.kr/p/2gEpM7H) by Steve Zihn (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156296479@N08/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48348568706_f6b50e43cb_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gEp43b)IMG_0497 (https://flic.kr/p/2gEp43b) by Steve Zihn (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156296479@N08/), on Flickr
This is not a Jaeger, but I got luckier then I usually do in the lighting, and you can see the cheek easier in this pic then you can in most. It looks like it runs right through the pin hole, but it's actually about 1/16" above it.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4209/34849303653_6b920ab4ba_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/V6vMQZ)100_0772 (https://flic.kr/p/V6vMQZ) by Steve Zihn (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156296479@N08/), on Flickr
This one is viable if you know what to look for.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4288/35272056330_5dbd13af80_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VJSvuf)My Rifle 3 (https://flic.kr/p/VJSvuf) by Steve Zihn (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156296479@N08/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4282/35274959660_28e0eaae7d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VK8oxE)aag-443_6 (https://flic.kr/p/VK8oxE) by Steve Zihn (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156296479@N08/), on Flickr
Again, not a Jaeger, but the lighting shows what I am trying to describe.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4138/35504947712_8c0feaa517_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W6s8YU)100_1165 (https://flic.kr/p/W6s8YU) by Steve Zihn (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156296479@N08/), on Flickr
And this is a Jaeger.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4240/35089322114_46b092e66a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VsHWYj)100_0605 (https://flic.kr/p/VsHWYj) by Steve Zihn (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156296479@N08/), on Flickr
I apologize for my poor skills as a photographer, but maybe I can get the point across in-spite of my limitations.
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When considering Architecture on Germanic guns you must keep in mind they are actually not any bigger than early colonial American rifles. They are not large guns. Their size is relative to the size of their barrel and buttplate. Many people that build these assume they are very big.
It's too late now but there are some things you might consider for your next one. You have too much wood under the barrel. You need about 1/8" web between the bottom of the barrel and the ram rod, and 1/8" under the ram rod. Also, your barrel is buried a little deep in the barrel channel. It should show 1/2 to 2/3rds of the side flat above the wood. As previously mentioned, your wrist is a little square as is your lower forestock.. If you're doing a round cheek piece it should look like Sapergia's or sz's. To my eye, the buttstock seems a tad long and the wrist a bit short. Also, there should be no fluting around the lock panels. I'd avoid using a buffer on the brass too, should be hand polished with abrasive paper backed with something solid or stones. I'd avoid that much cast off too, looks like a lot. Usually 1/4" is more than enough, if that much. Please take this in a constructive way, as this is how it was meant.
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Here you go Adrie.
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(https://i.ibb.co/gV2KkDc/FS3A5656.jpg) (https://ibb.co/L5F7VCs)
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Hello Adrie,
if you like to see more pics of the rifles that you see from the post of D.Taylor Sapergia let me know this rifles are from my collection. Also a very good source of information is the book Steinschloss-Jägerbüchsen it is the best book about that kind of rifles with very good pictures. Here a link to it : https://www.dwjmedien.de/Steinschloss-Jaegerbuechsen I know the author and a friend of mine has provided many of his rifles for it.
Monty
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Monty
I recognized the second Jaeger on the pictures of Taylor, now I understand.
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Monty: years ago, when I saw these wonderful Jaeger rifles posted here, I immediately added these pictures to my files, for reference. I hope you don't mind me posting them here again.
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Hallo Taylor, no, that even made me happy that someone has saved the pictures to post them again at the right time !
Monty
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I made the ramrod pipes for Hans. They are a little bit longer.
I think I am going to use two pipes, the same as on the pictures of Monty.
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Monty,
If you could link me to a thread regarding the second gun up from the bottom, in Taylor's post, I would really appreciate it!
I so enjoy seeing Brandenburg style rifles, with their somewhat different and simple lines, yet obvious high quality.
Very best,
Richard.
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Hello,
I have used the checklist and all your information.
The barrel fitted half in the stock, and now I have made it lower.
I made the grip longer and the fore stock shorter.
For me, I think the rifle is finished for Hans.
Next week I will return the rifle to him.
Thank you all. Merry Christmas and a happy New-year.
Adrie
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Adrie: for your first full sized rifle, you've done very well. Hans will thoroughly enjoy the rifle. Your willingness to take our critique and implement it in the build is commendable. I hope you will continue to build full sized guns.
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Nice looking Jaeger. Good work.
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Now it looks much better ! I'm looking forward to the next one.
Monty
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Today I returned the Jaeger to Hans Muller. It was an early Christmas present!
Hans told me it was exact what he had in mind and I believe he was very happy with it!
Some pictures of Hans with his Jaeger.
(https://i.ibb.co/D5BjkMn/DSC01298.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2gzpPMB)
(https://i.ibb.co/023072T/DSC01299.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JtPY1tV)
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Hans looks so very happy! He has waited a long time for holding it in his hands. Adrie, you have created a masterpiece for your good friend.
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Indeed, I’m happy as a kid under the Christmas tree! Adrie did an excellent job, and I am grateful of this. Besides that, it will remind me of where I found during my working life that beautiful barrel, on a local market in Yemen, where it was lying between well worn Kalashnikovs, M16's, Turkish matchlocks and Mausers. The original 1815 lock by Casper Korte of Amsterdam, the city I was born 86 years ago. And even the ramrod tip is from a big piece of ebony I picked up locally in Cameroun....
I sincerely hope that Adrie will continue making beautiful things, and I will happily support him with all the spares I still have, knowing that I cannot wish a better friend to make good use of it!
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Are you going to be able to take the rifle out and actually shoot it, Hans? What a joy that would be!
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No Taylor, hardly possible in present day Europe, and particularly in the Netherlands! I am no longer an active shooter, and getting black powder is next to impossible, or you have to buy fireworks during only two or three days at the end of the year, which is not safe at all.....
About the Jaeger: I thought that Adrie should have his name on it, so I suggested "Adrie Luke facit" but he made something very modest, as you can see. It was hardly visible, so I had to rub in some black ink...
(https://i.ibb.co/RBF58mS/Luke-6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0F7w5SX)
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It's been a fantastic story to follow. Thanks Adrie!