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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: Shreckmeister on August 04, 2019, 12:31:44 AM

Title: John Sherry Sr, Clarion County PA
Post by: Shreckmeister on August 04, 2019, 12:31:44 AM
A nice example of the work of John Sherry Sr.  Stock is in excellent condition with only signs of age and no damage.





(https://i.ibb.co/ftvK3Qq/485-E832-B-78-C3-48-BF-AD4-E-045027-BB4-AC0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xGHcn3X)

(https://i.ibb.co/vPQs4ZS/E6-E5-CBAF-20-A5-4-D06-A58-A-EA1578-D6-FEB3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4TYsRPH)

(https://i.ibb.co/GH0Bc99/E41-E30-D4-BDCC-44-AF-BACB-CF60-B3-A4-F436.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J3K05qq)

(https://i.ibb.co/VjPWGZq/F0-BA42-A2-77-E0-406-F-AC17-0-DB2-B9132749.jpg) (https://ibb.co/h7tRNjm)

(https://i.ibb.co/mc12jBk/IMG-2110.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vqrz1NR)

(https://i.ibb.co/8jCLV13/IMG-2122.jpg) (https://ibb.co/550gVbD)

(https://i.ibb.co/VS2ZhWG/IMG-2123.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WygwdWX)


Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: hanshi on August 04, 2019, 02:39:14 AM
I NEVER run across great finds like that one!
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: Stoner creek on August 04, 2019, 02:49:28 AM
Susquehanna looking to me. It has some Joe Long attributes in the stock profile and patchbox architecture. That’s a dandy find.
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: VP on August 04, 2019, 02:50:18 AM
Great find but I don't know who made it. Is there any engraving on the toe plate or carving around the barrel tang?

VP
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: Shreckmeister on August 04, 2019, 02:51:48 AM
Just a wiggle border on the toe. No carving.
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: Lucky R A on August 04, 2019, 03:57:31 AM
Hi Rob,
      I would have to guess that the gun was made south central PA or Maryland.   How about a close up of the patchbox?   Nice find Ron
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: lexington1 on August 04, 2019, 04:02:12 AM
Awesome rifle! I know it's not a Baum rifle, but I had a Samuel Baum rifle that had almost exactly the same patchbox. Very nice!
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: lexington1 on August 04, 2019, 04:07:57 AM
The more I look at it the more I think it could possibly be a Baum rifle or at least in the upper Susquehanna area.
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: rlm on August 04, 2019, 04:22:05 AM
The patchbox and  butt stock look like Joseph Clippinger Franklin Co. Washington' Twp. Where did the rifle turn up?
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: Shreckmeister on August 04, 2019, 04:43:13 AM
It turned up in Clarion County. I see a similarity to Clippingers box in the pb reference book.
Also reminds me of Christian Beck Patchbox
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: jdm on August 05, 2019, 12:55:09 AM
Rob, Your my hero!!
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: Tim Crosby on August 05, 2019, 12:57:36 AM
 Rob, You come up with some of the neatest finds.

  Tim
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: Shreckmeister on August 05, 2019, 04:44:44 AM
Quote from: jdm on August 05, 2019, 12:55:09 AM
Rob, Your my hero!!

Jim, You need to set your bar higher😄
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: Mauser06 on August 05, 2019, 08:21:09 AM
Right down the road from me.....!   


The majority of Western Pennsylvania guns aren't my thing so I don't go looking.  My family roots from the Clarion/Armstrong county area....I always wanted to build a rifle like maybe my ancestors may have had...but haven't been able to find much and what I do find, doesn't really interest me. 


Would be interested in hearing where that one was born..nice looking rifle and looks to be in pretty good shape. I like the lower forend patch.  Fixes like that always got me curious.  Did they accidentally break into the ramrod channel and decide to fix it or was it broke through later in life and fixed.   
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: Shreckmeister on August 05, 2019, 02:58:39 PM
That’s a good question. Wear plates were both functional and decorative. I am sure many were added after a ramrod breakthrough but I think more were preventative guards against it. I’ve studied over 85 rifles made by my family in WPA and every one had a wear plate that appeared original to the build. Ie showed more wear than the other inlays due to handling. If you want a nice WPA rifle with an earlier look they are out there. John Sherry would be a good Clarion example and Nicholas Shenefelts earlier work.
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: jdm on August 05, 2019, 04:52:34 PM
 Rob , Where is the patch box release located ? Is it hidden under the side plate? I didn't see it on the butt plate.  Jim
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: Shreckmeister on August 05, 2019, 05:17:57 PM
There is a button in the center of the toe plate.  Just not visible from the photo angle.  It was frozen up and I had to take
the butt plate off to fix it.  I was hoping for treasure in the patchbox like a note or something, but just a couple round
balls and caps were in there.
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: Shreckmeister on August 05, 2019, 06:01:02 PM
With Knowledge of Ron  Luckinbill, I am almost certain this rifle is the product of John Sherry. Many thanks to Ron for sharing.
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: Herb on August 05, 2019, 07:28:04 PM
In Jim Whisker's book "Behold, the Longrifle Again"  on page 167 there is pictured a John Sherry rifle that looks much like this one.
Title: Re: country auction find
Post by: Shreckmeister on August 05, 2019, 08:39:12 PM
Here's a signed John Sherry for comparison.  Photos thanks to Ron Luckenbill.

(https://i.ibb.co/bKc4ZNK/131505.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0GH0SYG)

(https://i.ibb.co/wR0b17w/131539.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jT6xFzW)

(https://i.ibb.co/d6dVsjb/131657.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S0hMD5Q)
Title: Re: John Sherry
Post by: Mick C on August 16, 2019, 04:02:53 AM
Mystery seems solved.  That's one nifty rifle-gun.  Thanks for sharing.