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General discussion => Contemporary Accoutrements => Topic started by: Mike Lyons on August 26, 2019, 05:54:40 AM

Title: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Mike Lyons on August 26, 2019, 05:54:40 AM
I’m planning on making a range box and hand cut dovetail joints.  Out of all the techniques I’ve viewed,  this guy has it down.

https://youtu.be/YFqY73lelq8
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Mark Elliott on August 26, 2019, 06:02:35 AM
He makes that look easy, but I am afraid it is actually decades of practice.   I am making a blanket chest now and it ain't so easy for me.
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Tim Crosby on August 26, 2019, 03:30:37 PM
 Just a lucky beginner, I mean look at the old tools he uses.

   Tim C.
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: mark esterly on August 26, 2019, 11:58:35 PM
"if it's too tight don't force it. just get a bigger hammer". ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Mike Lyons on August 27, 2019, 12:26:31 AM
Who needs jigs?   ;D
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Tim Crosby on August 27, 2019, 01:49:15 AM
 Layout...Layout...We don't need no stinking layout!

  Tim
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Mike Lyons on August 27, 2019, 02:31:43 AM
Talking about having your tool do the work and the right tool for the job.  It looks like that big saw is operating him.  I bet this video is a lot like Mike Brooks on the parting tool ;D
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Martin S. on August 27, 2019, 07:49:25 AM
Frank Klausz is a master woodworker, well known for his wit and skill.

Another one you should look at is Christian Becksvoort.

https://chbecksvoort.com/forwoodworkers.html

His instructional videos are excellent.
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Dave R on August 27, 2019, 07:42:28 PM
ABSOLUTLY AWESOME!!
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Elnathan on August 28, 2019, 02:25:10 AM
He makes that look easy, but I am afraid it is actually decades of practice.   I am making a blanket chest now and it ain't so easy for me.

What sort of blanket chest? I'm in the very first stages of making a copy of a PA Dutch style painted chest out of poplar. I was hoping to have the boards jointed, glued to width, and planed flat by now, but this summer has been a cascade of crises and I haven't had much time for projects.

I need to figure out where to get a lock for it still.
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Mark Elliott on August 28, 2019, 05:59:56 AM
I am making a simple VA style painted chest as large as I could get out of 1x12" (3/4" x 11 1/4") pine boards.  I will faux paint it and paint at least three fraktur panels on the front. I glued up two boards to get 22.5" wide panels   The chest will be about 2'x2'x4'.   I am cutting the dovetails now.   It is kinda hard working with such large panels.  I have made a dovetailed tool chest before.   It turned out Ok, but not great.   I am trying to do better with this chest. 
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Tim Crosby on August 28, 2019, 01:58:34 PM
He makes that look easy, but I am afraid it is actually decades of practice.   I am making a blanket chest now and it ain't so easy for me.

What sort of blanket chest? I'm in the very first stages of making a copy of a PA Dutch style painted chest out of poplar. I was hoping to have the boards jointed, glued to width, and planed flat by now, but this summer has been a cascade of crises and I haven't had much time for projects.

I need to figure out where to get a lock for it still.


  I have used these, great locks, made in England:

   https://www.horton-brasses.com/locks.asp

  Tim C.
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Elnathan on August 28, 2019, 03:08:37 PM
Mine should run just a bit under that - I'm guessing about 24"x21"x47-1/2", if all goes according to plan (The box itself is 20x20x46").

Tim,

I'll bear the recommendation in mind. The original locks are bit different than the one's offered today, though. What I am really looking for is an iron crab lock, whatever that may be. I haven't really gotten into that part of the project yet - I'd just as soon leave it off, but all the originals seem to have had a lock and I suspect that the locks helped pull the lids down tight and bug-proof in addition to keeping unauthorized people out, so I probably should install one.
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Mike from OK on August 29, 2019, 05:10:59 AM
"if it's too tight don't force it. just get a bigger hammer". ;D ;D

I may be guilty of saying that to an apprentice a time or two.

And I would've cut my thumb off trying to cut the first joint like that.

Mike
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: msellers on September 08, 2019, 06:43:20 PM
Another source if locks that may work is VanDykes restorers.
https://www.vandykes.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI042XsMjB5AIVS9bACh1hqg6zEAAYASAAEgKjpvD_BwE
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: B.Barker on September 08, 2019, 07:48:43 PM
Mike let us know how it goes with the dovetails. I've got a project that I have wanted to do for years but never started it yet. I'm wanting to use dove tails on it. I can cheat because my dad has a really nice dovetail jig for router use but would rather do hand cut ones.
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Mike Lyons on September 09, 2019, 02:00:38 AM
Mike let us know how it goes with the dovetails. I've got a project that I have wanted to do for years but never started it yet. I'm wanting to use dove tails on it. I can cheat because my dad has a really nice dovetail jig for router use but would rather do hand cut ones.

I will.  I set up and used my table saw for the first time today.  Everything is cut into pieces ready to go.   I have some fine tuning chisel work on the groves that the oak floor will fit in.  Then I’ll try my luck at the dovetails.  It’s been a fun project.  I don’t know how I’ve lived life without a table saw. 

(https://i.ibb.co/C5ThbfP/F0-B6-CFAC-76-BF-4-A65-91-AD-9425-B76-B76-DC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3yLBpnR)

(https://i.ibb.co/qnJfxhK/CD8-B35-C7-41-E2-459-F-AA17-31-A20-D693588.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3sRqkV2)
Title: Re: Dovetail Joints
Post by: Brian on September 27, 2019, 12:19:46 AM
Sheesh!  I can't do dovetails that good using a fancy jig and a router.