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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: Mike Brooks on September 10, 2019, 05:59:39 PM

Title: What is it?
Post by: Mike Brooks on September 10, 2019, 05:59:39 PM: Appears to be made as a carbine. 11 1/2" swamped .38 cal rifled barrel,1.085 at the breech, .845 at the waist and .856 at the muzzle. Old Begian repurposed lock marked ???? Bomburg looks to be original to the gun but much earlier to the gun. It has the same decoration at the tail as RCA #15. trigger pull is about 12". Where do you suppose this was made?

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Title: Re: What is it?
Post by: mr. no gold on September 10, 2019, 07:04:02 PM: Pure guessing here: Canada? A canoe gun?
Title: Re: What is it?
Post by: rich pierce on September 10, 2019, 07:09:10 PM: America from old parts, about 1810-20 would be my guess.
Title: Re: What is it?
Post by: Pete G. on September 10, 2019, 08:27:28 PM: I would guess a rifle damaged at the muzzle and cut short .
Title: Re: What is it?
Post by: Hungry Horse on September 10, 2019, 08:33:45 PM: Single side screw, and some obviously repurposed parts, indicate it was built from repurposed parts.

Hungry Horse
Title: Re: What is it?
Post by: WadePatton on September 11, 2019, 12:04:43 AM: Quote from: Pete G. on September 10, 2019, 08:27:28 PM
I would guess a rifle damaged at the muzzle and cut short .

I'm going with the general notion that the flare at the muzzle rules out a longer bbl cut off. Perhaps a new bbl was made and everything else was repurposed.

I will say this and defend my position-it's not a match rifle. ;D Got any cast in it? :P
Title: Re: What is it?
Post by: Mike Brooks on September 11, 2019, 12:18:31 AM: I personally think it's a pistol barrel. The owner's family came to America 1856 from Denmark and immigrated to Davenport. It was picked up somewhere between the east coast and Davenport and has been in the family ever since. They started a grocery store as soon as they arrived in Davenport.
Title: Re: What is it?
Post by: WESTbury on September 11, 2019, 02:17:16 AM: Without seeing first hand, it is somewhat reminiscent of an English short barreled Coaching Gun or a Saddle Blanket Gun.

I've been wishing, during my past 50 years of collecting, that these things could talk.
Title: Re: What is it?
Post by: WKevinD on September 11, 2019, 02:30:51 AM: I agree - a pistol barrel, repurposed. That's what we decided on this one.
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Kevin
Title: Re: What is it?
Post by: WadePatton on September 11, 2019, 04:48:52 PM: Quote from: Mike Brooks on September 11, 2019, 12:18:31 AM
I personally think it's a pistol barrel. The owner's family came to America 1856 from Denmark and immigrated to Davenport. It was picked up somewhere between the east coast and Davenport and has been in the family ever since. They started a grocery store as soon as they arrived in Davenport.

Has the rate of twist been checked?
Title: Re: What is it?
Post by: Mike Brooks on September 11, 2019, 05:27:33 PM: Quote from: WadePatton on September 11, 2019, 04:48:52 PM
Quote from: Mike Brooks on September 11, 2019, 12:18:31 AM
I personally think it's a pistol barrel. The owner's family came to America 1856 from Denmark and immigrated to Davenport. It was picked up somewhere between the east coast and Davenport and has been in the family ever since. They started a grocery store as soon as they arrived in Davenport.

Has the rate of twist been checked?
Nope.
Title: Re: What is it?
Post by: smokinbuck on September 12, 2019, 07:26:30 PM: Had a friend with one similar to yours but in very good condition and with a saddle ring. Story was it was made for Confederate cavalry use ???