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Title: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Justin Urbantas on October 01, 2019, 06:44:45 PM
I would be curious to see what people would say is the finest contemporary built gun that they have ever seen. I am hoping to see some amazing guns on this thread.
For me, it has got to be Jim Kibler's burl mounted fowler. I hardly have words to describe the beauty.  I want to print out posters of it to hang in the gunshop, just so I can look at it all the time.
Here is a link to the gun on Jim's site incase you haven't seen it yet (you must!!)
https://www.jimkibler.net/burl-stocked-fowling-piece.html
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on October 01, 2019, 06:58:09 PM
That sets the bar extremely high, Justin.  I've seen some wonderful stuff posted on this site over the years.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Mike Brooks on October 01, 2019, 08:14:23 PM
I would have difficulty narrowing it down to 3 or 4 dozen. there are a lot of very talented gunmakers out there these days.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: rich pierce on October 01, 2019, 10:12:32 PM
There’s a difference between fineness and desirability to me. If I could have one contemporary gun it would be Eric Kettenburg’s gun styled after the Musician’s rifle.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Justin Urbantas on October 01, 2019, 10:27:52 PM
There’s a difference between fineness and desirability to me. If I could have one contemporary gun it would be Eric Kettenburg’s gun styled after the Musician’s rifle.
I am not familiar with that one
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: rich pierce on October 01, 2019, 10:29:55 PM
There’s a difference between fineness and desirability to me. If I could have one contemporary gun it would be Eric Kettenburg’s gun styled after the Musician’s rifle.
I am not familiar with that one

http://www.erickettenburg.com/1750s.html
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Dave Marsh on October 01, 2019, 10:55:51 PM
WOW.  They are both fine and desirable to me.  Jim's is rifle out of a shop as new and beautiful and Eric's looks like a well used 200 year old.  I doubt I could choose one or the other.  They are both fantastic.  I probably have to agree with Mike that it is too hard to choose as the next one shown I will feel the same about.   8)

Dave
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: vanu on October 01, 2019, 11:22:26 PM
Certainly not the most elaborate rifle Wallace has made, But I've always been drawn to it...completely made by hand 50 years ago using many tools that were period antiques or forged to replicate those in a mid 18th century shop. The tree was cut by hand in SW Va, the blank sawn out of the log in a pit saw, forged barrel & lock, shop cast brass furniture from old candle sticks, patchbox/pipes - toe plate annealed and hammered out sheet brass, etc., etc.,etc. No attempt to age the rifle so it appears as it would out of a shop before 250 years of wear. What is remarkable is this was created without even an electric light!

http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2017/10/rifle-made-in-colonial-williamsburg.html

Bruce
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Justin Urbantas on October 02, 2019, 01:14:37 AM
Certainly not the most elaborate rifle Wallace has made, But I've always been drawn to it...completely made by hand 50 years ago using many tools that were period antiques or forged to replicate those in a mid 18th century shop. The tree was cut by hand in SW Va, the blank sawn out of the log in a pit saw, forged barrel & lock, shop cast brass furniture from old candle sticks, patchbox/pipes - toe plate annealed and hammered out sheet brass, etc., etc.,etc. No attempt to age the rifle so it appears as it would out of a shop before 250 years of wear. What is remarkable is this was created without even an electric light!

http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2017/10/rifle-made-in-colonial-williamsburg.html

Bruce
Is that the one from the video Gunsmith of Williamsburg?
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: vanu on October 02, 2019, 01:58:30 AM
Justin,

Nope, the movie gun is in the CWF collection; this one is in private hands.

Bruce
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Justin Urbantas on October 02, 2019, 02:20:13 AM
Ah. Even so, it's fantastic that he could do that. Wallace and Hershel House from Foxfire 5 are a big reason I got into gun building. I'm only 34, so their inspiration spans generations
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: jcmcclure on October 02, 2019, 02:51:03 AM
This was a Mike Brooks interpretation of an F&I rifle. I've admired this gun for sometime. It came up for sale sometime this year, but I already had a rifle in the works.

http://www.fowlingguns.com/rifle12.html
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Mike Lyons on October 02, 2019, 05:33:12 AM
That painted Pratt rifle at the CLA show was pretty neat.  I like Brian Barkers TN rifle too and I like everything Brooks makes.   
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: smallpatch on October 02, 2019, 05:43:31 AM
Any of Allen Martin's Lehighs.  $#*!, any of Al's rifles actually. Great architecture, tasteful carving, masterful inletting.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: B Shipman on October 02, 2019, 06:42:04 AM
I think Jim Kibler is one  of our very best. And this piece is great . One of the greatest compliments I've ever received is that the judges at Dixons years ago said they could always know my guns and I had no need to put a tape over the signature. My time has passed but like wise you can always know a Kibler. But this is not a signature gun. Others are.
 I also love Eric Ketinburgs  stuff. But I think Allen Martin can outdo the musition rifle on a routine basis.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: BOB HILL on October 02, 2019, 12:28:46 PM
To many to choose from out there. I like so many.
Bob
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Nordnecker on October 02, 2019, 02:04:59 PM
I haven't had the oportunity to see many contemporary guns in person. However, just the other day, a fellow brought two pistols made by Gary Brumfeld (sp?) for me to see. I was definitely impressed.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: sqrldog on October 02, 2019, 02:40:54 PM
I have never personally seen this gun but I believe this gun by Monte Mandarino certainly ranks as one of the best contemporary guns made.
(https://i.ibb.co/yWrMFDb/20190107-180052.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ln3qdM2)
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Bob McBride on October 02, 2019, 03:06:52 PM
Allen Martin’s Bucks County Schimmel made for Larry Pletcher reminds me of the story of a young Giotto being asked by the Pope to do a painting as proof of his skill and in response he hand draws a perfect circle.

.(https://i.ibb.co/9HnPxDD/118-EDD06-ACDB-4719-9-FA0-8-D0-B6-E884-C96.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VYV6F11)

(https://i.ibb.co/Jtf14k7/14-B4-E9-F9-4-F23-4400-BEAE-A5-A11-D9-F96-D5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8sWCp85)
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Mike Brooks on October 02, 2019, 03:39:13 PM
I have never personally seen this gun but I believe this gun by Monte Mandarino certainly ranks as one of the best contemporary guns made.
(https://i.ibb.co/yWrMFDb/20190107-180052.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ln3qdM2)
Yep, that's a hum dinger there. Definitely in the Brooks top 40 of favorite guns
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Bob Roller on October 02, 2019, 04:55:42 PM
That sets the bar extremely high, Justin.  I've seen some wonderful stuff posted on this site over the years.

My favorite was and still is an Alex Henry target rifle made by a Canadian friend,Ted Girodat.
It was better than the original he copied and Don Brown said it made his best ones look bad.
Ted Girodat is no longer with us,cancer took him way too soon.
As Taylor just said,There has been some wonderful stuff posted here over the years and will be
in years to come,both newly made and fine relics of a day long gone.Sometimes I wish I had
concentrated on making rifles instead of small parts for them but between the small parts for
rifles and parts for cars we were OK and can now do much less and have fewer thing to bother
us.
Bob Roller
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: R.J.Bruce on October 02, 2019, 05:38:53 PM
I like Shaker furniture, the Japanese katana, and similar things that at first glance seem quite simple. But, a second look will reveal that tremendous  effort went into making the item appear to look simple, when in fact it is quite complex.

The above Allen Martin schimmel, a Mike Brooks Carolina trade gun, and similar unadorned long guns with complex architectural details are what truly interest me.

Mike Brooks's Game Creepers rifle that he made for himself, but subsequently sold, is another example.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: 45-110 on October 02, 2019, 05:47:17 PM
I have kept that issue of Muzzle Blast showing Monte's creation hanging in my shop as a reminder of how little talent I have. To me that level of work is humbling.
kw
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Mike Brooks on October 02, 2019, 05:52:19 PM
I was just PM's asking what I thought that Mandarino gun is worth. I quickly estimated $100,000+. After thinking about it I'd adjust that estimate to $250,000+. I believe he's the only one I know of that is capable of that level of work.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: jrb on October 02, 2019, 06:00:01 PM
Ken Gahagan's painted red bumford trade gun. no Woodbury or liberace style stuff.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: sqrldog on October 02, 2019, 06:21:33 PM
Maybe I misunderstood the OP's title. It said the finest gun you've ever seen not what you prefer in a gun. Heck I like a plain rifle best of all but they certainly aren't the finest rifle I've ever seen. Mark Silver's jaeger that he displays at the CLA each year is quite a masterpiece. I have little use for a gun that I can't hunt with but they certainly aren't the finest gun I've seen.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: jrb on October 02, 2019, 06:37:33 PM
it doesn't get any finer than Gahagan's Bumford for me. it's totally historically correct and  finely made.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: oldtravler61 on October 02, 2019, 07:17:35 PM
  Well good topic but I would be hard pressed to name one or two. I have always liked Jack Dupreys guns. Mike Brooks with the folksie lion. That he had at the CLA is impressive. Several of Stoners guns. Impress me along with John Bivins.
  Not the guy for fancy but I do appreciate the skill it takes to do that kind of craftsmanship. But I'll take a plain jane Soddy or Tennessee any day..! Oops I almost forgot Joe Sells (sp ? ) North Carolina style.

    Oldtravler
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Bob McBride on October 02, 2019, 07:44:30 PM
I like Shaker furniture, the Japanese katana, and similar things that at first glance seem quite simple. But, a second look will reveal that tremendous  effort went into making the item appear to look simple, when in fact it is quite complex.

The above Allen Martin schimmel, a Mike Brooks Carolina trade gun, and similar unadorned long guns with complex architectural details are what truly interest me.

Mike Brooks's Game Creepers rifle that he made for himself, but subsequently sold, is another example.

We sure seem to have the same eye. I posted the Schimmel above, own the Brooks ‘Gamecreeper’ rifle, and love Shaker furniture. You have a very fine taste indeed sir..... ;)
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Majorjoel on October 02, 2019, 08:35:41 PM
A few years ago, Bill Shipman posted pictures of a very fine M. Fordney rifle he had finished building. I cannot say it was the finest contemporary piece I have ever laid eyes on, but it was certainly in the top tier of many a fine piece!   

Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Mick C on October 02, 2019, 09:48:19 PM
This is a really tough and somewhat loaded question as there are so many amazing gun makers here on this forum, any number of which I would be tremendously honored to be caretaker of one of their works of art.  However, for me, the most spectacular rifle that I have seen up close and held in my hands fairly recently (a few years ago) is the one made by Jim Chambers.  Here is a link to a picture of Jim holding the rifle from a profile of him on the Contemporary Makers Blog:

https://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2012/05/contemporary-makers-portraits-jim.html
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Shreckmeister on October 02, 2019, 09:51:37 PM
I don’t know the finest but I like this one by Jud B

(https://i.ibb.co/qgPJR6W/02-D1-AB96-A2-C7-4-F50-AD7-A-D8-B33717-A047.png) (https://ibb.co/vdKXJ9Q)
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Daryl on October 03, 2019, 12:18:03 AM
I thought my Verner was the best I had seen, except for, now that I think about it, some Jerry Hudleson, DaveC2, Dave C. and Tom C. have built.
This one, today, took my breath away, just as those mentioned did some time ago.
https://www.jimkibler.net/burl-stocked-fowling-piece.html
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Stoner creek on October 03, 2019, 03:42:45 AM
This one here qualifies in my opinion. Most of you are familiar with it.
(https://i.ibb.co/kM2TPZH/51486-C64-8-FF9-4045-A6-DC-5-A59-FA85-B7-E8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3kmbPKr)

(https://i.ibb.co/bL5cck9/83-B7-D89-C-21-A7-4461-AB28-A63-A96-FAEF37.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y8BHHxs)
Everything works.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Marcruger on October 03, 2019, 04:21:12 AM
I think the question is sort of like, "Which BBQ is the best?"  I like them all.  Similarly, I love so many of the beautiful contemporary rifles I have seen. 
All of that said, I think my all-time favorite rifle happens to be from the Golden Age (yep, stretching the rules of this question).  The silver mounted John Vogler Salem, NC longrifle commissioned for a Lieutenant of Francis Marion some years after the Revolution.  It embodies my ideal of a beautiful gun....

(https://i.ibb.co/hXrdzTc/John-Vogler-Silver-Rifle-9-ACC-3461-h-jpg635602879730000000.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DGmM2jY)
You can see this one in person at the MESDA Museum in Old Salem, NC. 
God Bless,   Marc
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: mountainman70 on October 03, 2019, 04:36:32 AM
my personal favorite is the Lenord Meadows rifle we posted in contemporary collecting.
Being built in the mid 70s ,there is much to see when holding. All these mentioned are fine work,way beyond my skills. But I honor the makers in high regard, Best regards, Dave F 8) 8)
(https://i.ibb.co/2SNnxrN/len-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gdVjN8V)
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Daryl on October 03, 2019, 05:41:46 AM
This one kinda turns my crank.

(https://i.ibb.co/k89WVvZ/100-1629.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wWwxZjt)

(https://i.ibb.co/0fz8S2P/100-1630.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dQH1qMn)

(https://i.ibb.co/R2Yvq2C/DSCN1071.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p2b0S23)

(https://i.ibb.co/gP2DFqT/100-1722.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5n05xp8)

Of course, it is signed by the maker on the barrel.
Sapergia, in script
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: redheart on October 03, 2019, 08:54:07 AM
My favorite is D. Taylors bag grip Hawken . I know it's not fancy, but as usual he did a perfect job and I'm obviously a Hawken nut.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: FALout on October 03, 2019, 12:51:12 PM
I base my input on what I’ve “seen” in person (which is based on very limited number of rifles) not just pics.  I was very impressed with Marvin Kemper’s copy of the John Small Grouseland rifle.  I saw both the copy and original at the Illinois show and didn’t even then comprehend the full story till the next issue of Muzzleloader Magazine came to my door.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Daryl on October 05, 2019, 08:37:17 PM
My favorite is D. Taylors bag grip Hawken . I know it's not fancy, but as usual he did a perfect job and I'm obviously a Hawken nut.

Yes - that bag-grip Hawken was REALLY nice. Good shooting rifle, too.

(https://i.ibb.co/WDWbZbj/100-4502-zps5ff3ce9c.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GsvKyKN)

(https://i.ibb.co/c1GRTBp/100-4504-zps89e9601a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vH7fzFr)


Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: hanshi on October 05, 2019, 09:30:25 PM
Well, I just had to jump in anyway.  Many of  the rifles posted do indeed make it hard to catch one's breath; wheew...  But while I can truly appreciate gorgeous guns as high art, I really like plainer ones and those with somewhat understated carving and engraving.  Perfectly authentic renditions are admired but not absolutely required.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: smylee grouch on October 06, 2019, 12:57:05 AM
Since the question was finest I too would have to go with Monte Manderino,s creation. It is not only executed flawlessly (to my eyes) but ornate to the extreme and every thing about the build was custom hand made by him IIRC.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Jim Spray on October 06, 2019, 01:59:59 AM
My all time finest would be a swivel breach by John Schippers. It is number 13 in his book. It's just a very well made beautiful rifle.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Justin Urbantas on October 06, 2019, 04:45:50 AM
Funny. I had no idea Monte Mandarino lived an hour away from where I used to live in MT. Wish I could've spent some time learning in his shop.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: redheart on October 08, 2019, 07:52:59 AM
My favorite is D. Taylors bag grip Hawken . I know it's not fancy, but as usual he did a perfect job and I'm obviously a Hawken nut.

Yes - that bag-grip Hawken was REALLY nice. Good shooting rifle, too.

(https://i.ibb.co/WDWbZbj/100-4502-zps5ff3ce9c.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GsvKyKN)

(https://i.ibb.co/c1GRTBp/100-4504-zps89e9601a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vH7fzFr)
Daryl,
Thanks Brother, I'm glad I'm not the only one who appreciates Hawken perfection!
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Bob Roller on October 08, 2019, 02:26:13 PM
The bag grip Hawken is one of my favorites as well.FIRST CLASS craftsmanship across the
whole job and I am happy to have been able to furnish the 1/4x80 tap and die for the tang
sight. This gun is an upgrade on the original that inspired it in all aspects and is a collection
in and of itself. This kind of gun makes me wish I had tried harder to learn rifle making but
the locks and triggers appealed more to me along with the cars and aircraft interspersed in
between shop work.
Bob Roller
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: redheart on October 08, 2019, 07:01:13 PM
The bag grip Hawken is one of my favorites as well.FIRST CLASS craftsmanship across the
whole job and I am happy to have been able to furnish the 1/4x80 tap and die for the tang
sight. This gun is an upgrade on the original that inspired it in all aspects and is a collection
in and of itself. This kind of gun makes me wish I had tried harder to learn rifle making but
the locks and triggers appealed more to me along with the cars and aircraft interspersed in
between shop work.
Bob Roller
Thanks Bob, :)
I'm glad that you like it too, thanks for being involved in it!
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: WH1 on October 13, 2019, 08:35:16 PM
Ian Pratt’s Holston iron mounted rifle or one of Chuck Edwards iron mounted early rifles
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: bones92 on October 15, 2019, 04:04:23 AM
I'm pretty fond of my Cornell Kemper .45... but then, it's mine.  And she shoots quite well.

But yes, every time I think I've seen the pinnacle of contemporary work, one of you fine folk post photos of something even nicer.

I do sorta aspire to own a Brooks rifle someday... mainly because I remember him as Gunmaker back when I first got onto Gunboards.  And because he makes a fine smoke-pole.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Bill Raby on October 15, 2019, 04:13:34 AM
A very well made rifle will always beat one that just has a lot stuff on it.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: davec2 on October 15, 2019, 07:06:12 PM
There are far too many fantastic builders for me to choose "the finest"....I would feel a little better if the question was to pick the top 1000.  I have only seen pictures of all the amazing rifles I think would fall into this category, except for this one by John Ennis.  This is the only contemporary gun (except the ones I made) I have personally held in my hands .  It was an inspiration to me on many levels......

(https://i.ibb.co/qBP42hg/ennis-2.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

(https://i.ibb.co/SvpHcyc/ennis-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x5QwYLY)

(https://i.ibb.co/f9tSk6w/ennis-4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5kv9rpH)

(https://i.ibb.co/VTc89Rr/ennis-5.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

(https://i.ibb.co/sKR4KHx/ennis-6.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

(https://i.ibb.co/n6H2q0t/ennis-7.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

(https://i.ibb.co/nmKN73C/ennis-8.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

And this one by Steven Alexander has haunted me for many years.  A few years ago I tracked down the photographer who took the pictures of this rifle for a magazine cover.  That led me to Mr. Alexander himself.  I asked if there were any other pictures of this rifle and he told me the rifle was in private hands and that the owner was very reclusive about taking other pictures or letting anyone know who he was.  I can understand that, but I wish the photographer had taken just a few more pictures of such a lovely rifle.

(https://i.ibb.co/dsNMx0n/Alexander-Rifle-2-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y45Qw7v)

(https://i.ibb.co/K2D3Hs1/Alexander-rifle-breech.png) (https://ibb.co/c6w7d8m)

(https://i.ibb.co/cbtv5T8/Alexander-rifle-wrist.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wJCLH6Q)
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Bob McBride on October 15, 2019, 07:31:07 PM
Now that is a fine rifle, but, regarding the term ‘fine’, it isn’t a scientific term. Its subjective. I define ‘fine’ as ‘precise’ not necessarily ‘elaborate’. I always seem to admire a thing’s essence, which is easier to appreciate in simplicity. But that’s just my way of seeing it.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: rich pierce on October 15, 2019, 08:04:46 PM
Dave, thanks for sharing great work.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Craig Wilcox on October 15, 2019, 10:13:08 PM
Dave, to be honest, that John Ennis rifle is one that I could think was built by you.  Splendid work.

The Alexander rifle is probably the "finest" that I have seen.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Mick C on October 15, 2019, 11:39:49 PM
Incredible works of art, Dave.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Shreckmeister on October 16, 2019, 04:06:19 AM
This one makes me think it is possible to be entirely creative yet appear to be from another time. Ian Pratt




(https://i.ibb.co/wCJ5mnj/083-B7-FC4-33-BF-4797-9-C53-BB149-E79422-D.png) (https://ibb.co/pZWYFH5)

(https://i.ibb.co/tP68qSy/A0-D57-A97-F83-E-463-F-9-E43-8-D7-B5243-F5-EA.png) (https://ibb.co/2YrgvwX)
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Bob McBride on October 16, 2019, 04:30:04 AM
This one makes me think it is possible to be entirely creative yet appear to be from another time. Ian Pratt




(https://i.ibb.co/wCJ5mnj/083-B7-FC4-33-BF-4797-9-C53-BB149-E79422-D.png) (https://ibb.co/pZWYFH5)

(https://i.ibb.co/tP68qSy/A0-D57-A97-F83-E-463-F-9-E43-8-D7-B5243-F5-EA.png) (https://ibb.co/2YrgvwX)

He’s a genius.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Mike Brooks on October 16, 2019, 03:09:52 PM
Yup, that's a helluva gun.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Bob Roller on October 16, 2019, 03:15:44 PM
Now that is a fine rifle, but, regarding the term ‘fine’, it isn’t a scientific term. Its subjective. I define ‘fine’ as ‘precise’ not necessarily ‘elaborate’. I always seem to admire a thing’s essence, which is easier to appreciate in simplicity. But that’s just my way of seeing it.

I agree with Bob McBride.The mostly *unornmented Gibbs long range muzzle loader I saw
in Ted Girodat's collection years ago is a fine example of fine AND precise.This one by
Steve Alexander is a fine (to me) example of a decorated rifle.Almost ANYONE can make
a GUN but it takes a dedicated craftsman to make a RIFLE.I can make a gun but that's
about it.No ornamentation of any kind.
*As I recall,the only ornamentation on the Gibbs was a double border engraved following
the shape of the lock plate and MAYBE the checkering on the hammer.Also THIS Gibbs was
an original,not the new ones from Europe.One more thing,Steve Alexander worked with Lynton
McKenzie who was another TOP craftsman and now deceased since February of 1998.

Bob Roller
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: axelp on October 16, 2019, 04:10:42 PM
Its the good work, fine work, exceptional work that transcends time. Meaning, it is recognized as such yesterday, today and tomorrow.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: davec2 on October 16, 2019, 08:39:32 PM
Do any of you know who owns the Steven Alexander rifle I posted a few pictures of ?  I would pay a lot of money just to have a complete set of pictures of that rifle and wold love to get in contact with the owner through someone who knows him or her.

Thanks
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Dan Fruth on October 16, 2019, 09:35:54 PM
I am biased, as he was my mentor, but Jack Haugh's jaegers as well as his English guns are some of the best.
http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2008/04/jack-haugh.html
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Jim Kibler on October 16, 2019, 09:54:05 PM
Monte Mandarino's two French long guns.  Nothing even a close second.

Jim
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: bob in the woods on October 16, 2019, 11:50:17 PM
There are a few of Eric Kettenburg's creations that would top my list. 
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Dphariss on October 19, 2019, 05:54:21 PM
That sets the bar extremely high, Justin.  I've seen some wonderful stuff posted on this site over the years.

My first thought was where to start????

Dan
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Dan'l 1946 on October 21, 2019, 06:56:20 PM
Monte Mandarino's two French long guns.  Nothing even a close second.

Jim
Jim, I think your burl maple fowler is as fine a piece as I have ever seen.                                                           
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Tim Crosby on October 22, 2019, 12:34:22 AM
 The question was: "The finest Contemporary gun you've ever seen" Then based on this definition of "Contemporary":

"2.belonging to or occurring in the present."

 I have to put this one in:

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=56475.0

 Tim C.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Stoner creek on October 22, 2019, 12:37:02 AM
The question was: "The finest Contemporary gun you've ever seen" Then based on this definition of "Contemporary":

"2.belonging to or occurring in the present."

 I have to put this one in:

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=56475.0

 Tim C.
Mighty fine choice Tim!
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: oldtravler61 on October 22, 2019, 10:31:06 PM
   Tim I agree...to..that..one...but..I might add Flectos...latest..Bucks county..she sure is sweet to look at...Oldtravler
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Brian on October 24, 2019, 02:13:32 AM
This one kinda turns my crank.

(https://i.ibb.co/k89WVvZ/100-1629.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wWwxZjt)

(https://i.ibb.co/0fz8S2P/100-1630.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dQH1qMn)

(https://i.ibb.co/R2Yvq2C/DSCN1071.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p2b0S23)

(https://i.ibb.co/gP2DFqT/100-1722.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5n05xp8)

Of course, it is signed by the maker on the barrel.
Sapergia, in script

That one always spun my wheels as well Daryl.  I saw that one go together from the very start.  I still can't find a mistake on it.

I actually got to shoot that one once!   ;D
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: westbj2 on November 23, 2019, 09:36:21 PM
This is the French fowler by Monte Mandarino shown in an exhibition in 2003 at the Minneapolis institute of arts.  Recall a few details from conversation with Monte.
-Trigger guard has 90 piercings and took 3 dozen jeweler saw blades.
-4+ ounces of gold
-almost 3 years to complete.
Owner is now deceased and whereabouts of the gun are unknown to me.

(https://i.ibb.co/7WDS80S/mandarino4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XsPWNGW)


(https://i.ibb.co/F74V1YM/mandarino-3.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)


(https://i.ibb.co/mzGVbDP/mandarino-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/h8yJL7T)
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Daryl on December 01, 2019, 01:15:17 AM
Taking "FANCY" & "ORNATE" to the highest level indeed.
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Eddie Southgate on December 02, 2019, 06:09:22 AM
https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/attachments/right-side-small-jpg.17166/
https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/attachments/left-side-small-jpg.17167/

  This rifle suits me as well as any I have seen . A Kibbler kit built by Tim Williams . If I had him build it for me I wouldn't add or subtract a thing . Belongs to a feller on another forum .
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Daryl on December 03, 2019, 09:37:24 PM
"You must the logged din to do (see) that"
Title: Re: The finest contemporary gun you've seen??
Post by: Eddie Southgate on December 09, 2019, 12:48:24 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/3NBJWCK/Tim-Williams-Kibler.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d2Gh65Z)

(https://i.ibb.co/kq2n0rq/Tim-Williams-Kibler-Left.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SVwT01V)


 Daryl, This better ?