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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: alex e. on December 06, 2019, 11:56:03 PM

Title: How would you do this?
Post by: alex e. on December 06, 2019, 11:56:03 PM

 What would be the easy,efficient way to secure this bayonet to the socket? I'm thinking brazing/ sweating it together.
How were originals done?
Thanks in advance,  Alex
(https://i.ibb.co/5cjRpRZ/20191206-112836.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yskQvQ2)

Title: Re: How would you do this?
Post by: Clark Badgett on December 07, 2019, 01:13:16 AM

I've owned a few musket bayonets over the years and still have a couple. I've studied my 1816 style bayonet for many years trying to figure out how they were made and all I can think of is they were forged out by a smith and the socket must be forge welded some how. I've never found any evidence of a braze or solder joint of any kind.

Title: Re: How would you do this?
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on December 07, 2019, 01:28:01 AM

Alex:  I do not know how the originals were made, but you have a two-piece effort there, so they need to be joined.  file and fit the surfaces of the stem to match the socket as close as you possibly can, in the concave junction and on the outside of the piece, flux, and joint with high temp silver solder.  that requires red heat, so an oxy/acetylene torch or the like, will be needed. You'll also need a fixture of some sort to hold everything in alignment during the join too.  The closer you can make the fix, the less of a joint you'll see.  Done properly, it'll be as strong as if one piece of steel.

Title: Re: How would you do this?
Post by: smart dog on December 07, 2019, 04:25:14 PM

Hi Alex,
I welded mine together by tacking it in place with my oxy-acetylene torch. Then I added fillets of metal around it, which I fled into a shield shaped like some original bayonets.
 
(https://i.ibb.co/Bc7jmq0/Doug-s-militia-musket-bayonet.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rFLMg4D)

FYI, the last slot for the barrel stud tapers narrower slightly toward the end. That allows the stub to press firmly in place and eliminate any wobble in the bayonet. To remove the bayonet, you have to tap the blade forward lightly with your palm to release it.

dave 

Title: Re: How would you do this?
Post by: David Rase on December 07, 2019, 04:47:37 PM

Back in 2002 I used my mig welder to attach this Dutch style bayonet to the socket for my composite musket.
David

(https://i.ibb.co/1rMtmFK/Dutch-Musket-Bayonet-6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m90Vcft)

(https://i.ibb.co/j6K2Qpb/Dutch-Musket-Bayonet-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vw5GTtV)

Title: Re: How would you do this?
Post by: P.W.Berkuta on December 07, 2019, 10:00:08 PM

To make it look and work like an original I would MIG or TIG it or IF you are real good with a Oxy-Acetylene torch I would use one but only if you know what you are doing with it ;D