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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: runastav on December 25, 2019, 09:02:03 PM
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Hi all! here I have a Norwegian or Swedish barn gun, percussion, cal ca 64 With STRAIGHT rifle sometime we come akros this.So the big question why do they make such rifling? Is it common in America?
Runar
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Best I am able to ascertain, straight rifling is intended for shot. I am told it stabilizes shot better than a chokeless smoothbore. In an 18th century German book plate a straight rifled gun is called a "Schrot Büchse"... shot rifle.
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In the late 1890's, the Swedish Government make it illegal to shoot moose with a smoothbore shotgun.
Thus, Husqvarna restored to straight rifling one of the barrels on their shotguns, so the farmer would
indeed be using a rifle. These were designed for black powder and round ball. I had one such fun, made
in 1898. Thus, the gun could still be used with shot in both barrels, or legally with ball for moose.
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"Schrot" can also be shot or a slug.SchroTT is usually scrap or junk and
will not apply here. That is a good looking old gun no matter where it was made.
Bob Roller
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I had an early gun, built as a rifle, with wood cover patchbox, and a straight rifled barrel. So I assume they shot ball, as well as shot with them.
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Its been my understanding that straight Rifleing was used to make it possible to shoot either ball or shot. A conventionally rifled barrel would scatter shot and eliminate an effective pattern while straight Rifleing retained some manner of patterning due to the lack of spiral. It made a single gun more functional for the man who couldn't afford a shotgun and rifle.
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At one time, deep grooves were "thought to give a place" for the dirt (fouling) to accumulate over a large number of shots - this, in ctg. rifles of the 1870 period. (Germany)
Was this perhaps a holdover from previous "European technology"? Deep straight grooves would definitely do this in a gun designed specifically for shot, ie: with straight grooves instead
of rotating grooves.
Unless some 'chart' surfaces explaining this, it's all speculation, I guess.
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Hi all! here I have a Norwegian or Swedish barn gun, percussion, cal ca 64 With STRAIGHT rifle sometime we come akros this.So the big question why do they make such rifling? Is it common in America?
Runar
Runar, my understanding is the same as Smokinbuck's comments on the usage of both shot and ball in a straight rifled barrel. To answer your question on usage in America, my observations over many years is that they were seldom used, but some guns with straight rifling were made here. An example is this over under percussion gun in my collection
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Hi guys! And thank you for input, Nice gun OLUT! A gun buddy scan this from the book, Class Book for The School of Mysketry Hythe- by oberst E.C. Wolford in 1861
Runar
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Well, there's some good documentation.
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Hi Guys! and thank you Daryl! The rifle needs some LTC so here is some photos.ANVIL in you tube use Medical tube when gluing so why not ;)
Runar
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Hi all! here I have a Norwegian or Swedish barn gun, percussion, cal ca 64 With STRAIGHT rifle sometime we come akros this.So the big question why do they make such rifling? Is it common in America?
Runar
It will shoot a solid ball better than a smooth barrel. I once saw European rolling block 16 ga(?) shotgun with straight rifling.
Dan
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Hi all!And thank you Dphariss! Lockplate screw New head silversolder to treads, New Wood vith lockplate and New pistong.
Runar
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Looking great!
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Hi all, and thank you Bob McBride! Fix sear on tumbler With spring steel.Slim the mainspring a tad way to Heavy!
Runar
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Hi Guys! Done ;)
Runar
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Very nice, that is definitely a good looking gun. Not sure why, but the lines appeal to me.
Mike
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Hi Runar,
I enjoy every one of hour gun restorations. The finishing of the old and new wood must be one of the hardest parts. Can you tell us a little about your methods of blending the old and new wood.
Thanks.....Lynn
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Sorry.....every one of YOUR gun restorations....
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Hi Folks! And thank you , LynnC I use this Walnut powder in water and make right color(waterstain) :)
Runar
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Thanks Runar.