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General discussion => Contemporary Accoutrements => Topic started by: rich pierce on January 23, 2020, 03:33:27 AM

Title: Big old horn
Post by: rich pierce on January 23, 2020, 03:33:27 AM
Picked up this very large horn. Obviously the little eye hook in the base plug is a recent addition. I’m guessing it was a supply horn.
(https://i.ibb.co/k8BvwnT/9857-F775-23-D5-4571-A1-B4-0-F30-C8-B90-E57.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9TgS1X0)

(https://i.ibb.co/0cTQjPq/6995-F4-A0-1057-436-E-B55-E-D7180-A2-F11-EF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mGkSCQJ)

(https://i.ibb.co/xCvCWMQ/76-ED7-A82-BFDF-4-CEF-B99-B-EF746-C1-F8-C51.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bWhWTrn)

(https://i.ibb.co/8xbdjh4/9837-D3-D8-DEAB-4924-A120-1-FAFE6694-FBF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ykpY83B)
Title: Re: Big old horn
Post by: Tim Crosby on January 23, 2020, 05:07:05 PM
 Neat old horn. Rather than a Supply horn it could be a Long Hunters horn. One reason I saw this is because the tip is carved for a strap and the butt has a hole in it where a finial of some sort would have fit. I would think a Supply horn would have been carried on a horse or pack  animal in a bag. I think larger horns like it are earlier where more powder was need for longer trips when there was no place to get more. MTCW

   Tim 
Title: Re: Big old horn
Post by: Greg Pennell on January 23, 2020, 05:52:42 PM
Nice find, Rich!  Like Tim, I think it probably had a staple in the butt at one time. If you look just to the left of the brass eyelet, there’s a dimple that could be for the other point of the staple...kinda looks like the holes may have been filled with something long ago. At any rate, it’s a nice addition to your collection! 

Winter is too long, our flea markets won’t open until April. I need to load up the wife and go antiquing...

Greg
Title: Re: Big old horn
Post by: Bob McBride on January 23, 2020, 05:54:37 PM
Cool old horn. Nice find.
Title: Re: Big old horn
Post by: rich pierce on January 23, 2020, 06:30:11 PM
Greg, good eyes! I am inclined to think it may have had a staple there. Now, whether to restore and whether to hang or use is the question. The tiny wire nails rusted through and the plug fell out the other night when I was showing it to some fellas. The inside was hollowed out. Pretty sure this was one of those self-made horns with a whittled, not turned, plug.
(https://i.ibb.co/Y0RnK5n/DFAD9-C8-E-2-D5-F-444-B-85-FA-488-D278389-F3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tLmjN0j)

(https://i.ibb.co/YX9Wk4h/7-B1-E30-BB-AE12-4433-8-B0-A-1-FB884892701.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G9wJ2fR)

I can see powder residue, sparkly graphite on the inside. I guess that’s our kind of glitter!
Title: Re: Big old horn
Post by: T.C.Albert on January 23, 2020, 06:45:59 PM
Neat horn. The set of initials may indicate a
Long hunters horn as well.
TC
Title: Re: Big old horn
Post by: WadePatton on January 23, 2020, 07:34:22 PM
Quote from: Greg Pennell on January 23, 2020, 05:52:42 PM
Nice find, Rich!  Like Tim, I think it probably had a staple in the butt at one time. If you look just to the left of the brass eyelet, there’s a dimple that could be for the other point of the staple...kinda looks like the holes may have been filled with something long ago. At any rate, it’s a nice addition to your collection! 

Winter is too long, our flea markets won’t open until April. I need to load up the wife and go antiquing...

Greg

Yeah, it looks like the original holes for a staple where filled and the eyelet added to me.  Obvious there was another hole to me.
Title: Re: Big old horn
Post by: Tim Crosby on January 23, 2020, 07:41:28 PM
 I thought from this Pic there was a hole in the Butt, that's why I was thinking finial.


(https://i.ibb.co/8xbdjh4/9837-D3-D8-DEAB-4924-A120-1-FAFE6694-FBF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ykpY83B)
Title: Re: Big old horn
Post by: Karl K. on January 23, 2020, 08:52:14 PM
Rich, that thumb looks like it took a whack!
Title: Re: Big old horn
Post by: rich pierce on January 23, 2020, 09:13:52 PM
Quote from: Karl K. on January 23, 2020, 08:52:14 PM
Rich, that thumb looks like it took a whack!

Think that was while  knapping a particularly tough piece of chert.

I generally have a blood blister somewhere.
Title: Re: Big old horn
Post by: WadePatton on January 23, 2020, 09:30:12 PM
Someone asked about grain orientation of plugs not too long ago.  Pretty clear to see here. 

I'd be tempted to re-install a staple if it were mine.