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General discussion => Contemporary Accoutrements => Topic started by: Greg Pennell on April 08, 2020, 04:02:29 PM
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Hey guys, let’s see what’s on your workbenches! Now that I finally finished my turkey gun. I’m getting around to working up a horn I picked up at the CLA last August. It’s a few firsts for me...first turned plug, first banded horn, and (hopefully) my first applied tip. It’s starting to come together.
(https://i.ibb.co/TYxS5ff/CE67504-A-89-DE-4-C8-A-8-BA7-84-B2-E960-EEE4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pbB8p77)
(https://i.ibb.co/vVFypGc/04-EB7-C80-E80-B-4-A1-D-A8-D8-F73-B6-F36-CC9-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NtvD5PF)
(https://i.ibb.co/87hC9rz/A00-F3-E61-F083-4382-A3-B9-67-E0072-BCB5-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TgCft4K)
(https://i.ibb.co/cC29L9s/50-BE475-D-46-E4-4345-87-DC-8-C525-FAFA2-C4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z7PgJgt)
So, what are you guys working on?
Greg
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Traditional Scottish dirk
12 1/2” x 1 1/2” x 1/4” blade
Working on brass fittings
(https://i.ibb.co/GT2KbjL/BDCF03-FE-2-CFB-4-CE4-B91-B-B5-C229-B0-D0-CD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3zNDLHq)
(https://i.ibb.co/RYspf81/9521-C918-9-BD0-4-BCE-B74-D-7-EDB2702-BC2-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ydZnt2D)
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Greg, Looks like the lathe you got a couple of years ago is coming into it's own. Keep up the good work. You are sure getting more use of it than I ever did. I've got 2 dirk blades downstairs I'm plan in to working up. Bob
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Nice shaping Greg. I like that base. I look forward to seeing the finished product. Please proceed sir. God Bless, Marc
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Does this mess count? I've got more stuff go'n than I need, I would like to extend Winter, for a month or so.
Tim
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Got a few things done today> Shear knife, powder measure with a ball starter for my 25, ( I lose short starters quite often ) and a shot -powder measure. Cold and windy today so I'm in the shop! Tim, You have a drill with a cord????
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Yea, try'n to stay hystericly correct, notice it's Grandson to the left ;D TC
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The advantage of a drill with a cord is that when I set it down I can (usually) follow the cord to find the drill again.
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This is a little further along than this now but here is a pic of each side of current project,.......the initial sketches anyway,.....
(https://i.ibb.co/hFDBZYv/50932765-645958225838125-6693258264317078538-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KxF2LKH)
(https://i.ibb.co/Jtrck5D/73537489-110461100259354-40486253920179094-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jf384gn)
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That’s gonna look sharp, Aaron! Be sure and post the finished piece!
Greg
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A handsome horn, Gregg! One of those knives reminds me a bit of a Bollocks dagger.
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That’s a nice horn Greg. I’ve got this Bucks County 20G American Fowler, Oct/Rd on the Work bench. Just finished inletting the trigger and syncing it up with the lock today.
(https://i.ibb.co/tc0Zk8J/A1-AB6-ED8-23-D8-4-AAD-9299-3-B05685-F6-B48.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GkZsBc5)
(https://i.ibb.co/LkJsfZ5/5214708-D-5-B73-4-F22-9-D77-DB5-DE7-F047-EB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BzrYRCN)
Greg,
Does the honey-do list count? My back can’t take much more of this virus stay at home $#@*. Here’s a mantle I finished up and a porcelain tiled porch nearly complete.
(https://i.ibb.co/MBKKZCW/F495-CF81-A1-B5-4-DCF-BB6-A-A8-ADFB6-FA5-F8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sWccbVk)
(https://i.ibb.co/QKJtzZ8/5131-EC05-CC49-4-EB1-AD34-E373-A5-A3490-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BCfFdm4)
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Neat Stuff. REALLY neat stuff...
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Mike, I can’t wait to see how your fowling piece comes out...judging from your past builds I’m sure it will be stunning. I shot my “Southern Mountain Shotgun” some yesterday...that big Chambers lock is wicked fast, and after I get this thing jug choked the turkeys will be hating me for years!
Yep, honey do’s count. Did you ever watch the Red Green Show? “If a woman doesn’t find you handsome, at least she can find you handy”.
Greg
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No horn work for me... Can't use my lathe until I get the roof back on the shed. Thus far, the weather has not been cooperative.
But I did a "rough draft" of a bag. It's machine sewn... Time saver when you're trying new things. I also decided to try out mahogany colored dye for kicks... came out better than I expected.
I had little hands helping me with dye and oil... And it shows. Lol. But that's ok it's just a project to try new things.
(https://i.ibb.co/g45xm9m/IMG-20200412-162313010.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NT8MtCt)
(https://i.ibb.co/Sv5HqF1/IMG-20200411-213307893.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DKzm306)
(https://i.ibb.co/vvkGd3W/IMG-20200409-190946721.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KzWks2g)
(https://i.ibb.co/BVY1Lxf/IMG-20200409-190933282.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TBNCcSw)
Mike
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Mike, that’s a dandy bag, and a dandy helper! I wish I had an apprentice...
Anyway, it was raining here today, which kept me out of the mushroom woods and in the shop. I managed to get my banded horn assembled, but I haven’t decided which way to go with dyes and such. I learned a lot on this project, thanks to all Tim’s tutorials, and Scott Sibley’s banded horn book. I’ll definitely be making some more, when I get around to getting some more antler pieces for tips.
Walnut plug, with an iron staple, pinned with 4 iron pins. Bands and tip pinned with 3 iron pins. Tip is elk and whitetail antler pieces ( the tip got pretty pithy, one of the things I learned :o)
(https://i.ibb.co/CwPqJ2y/36-E85-D7-E-03-C2-4-DBA-B4-AC-758050-C175-B8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mRNmv8K)
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Greg and Mike- I would love to see your smoothbores at Boonesboro next year, really enjoyed seeing your work at the Fort in February. I only hope and pray that conditions allow us to get together by then.
Rick
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Well, here’s the finished horn. I laid down a base coat of saddle tan leather dye, then hit it with some dark walnut Minwax, and some powdered tempera “patina”. Rubbed it all back to where I wanted it, and finished up with a coat of neutral shoe polish. The strap is a simple finger woven sisal strap, which I think goes good with this horn. I’ll probably wind up pairing this one with a rustic looking bag from Jim Webb’s book.
Greg
(https://i.ibb.co/p3QrVv0/F4-D7-D07-C-7-CC5-475-E-A764-0443-D5-A44-D4-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/khJ6bgH)
(https://i.ibb.co/FJpngjW/A0-DFBFAA-81-D2-47-E8-8362-0852-DDC16-C52.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WFCsgY3)
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Greg, you done a fine job on that horn. A little scratching and you will be good to go. That will look good hanging on your shoulder with that smooth bore close by as well. Poor old Tom! Good luck! Mike Hamilton
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Greg that horn looks beautiful. You know I love banded ones. You have held to your high craftsmanship standards sir. God Bless, Marc
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It doesn’t get any better than that one Greg.
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Excellent work, Greg.
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Thanks guys. I couldn’t do this without all the help from Tim C’s tutorials, and the free flow of information on this site. If a guy had to figure this out on his own, it would be a tough row to hoe. On to the next project!
Greg
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You're a busy man Gregg.
Nice work, looks awesome
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Nice work Greg, you should be Happy with that one, one of your straps Really sets it off. Glad I could help.
Tim
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That is indeed impressive--very impressive.
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Working on a knife for myself.
(https://i.ibb.co/Rp3B3cW/KIMG0773.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QFPCPMG)
(https://i.ibb.co/MkTQLND/KIMG0766.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r2PNJyG)
(https://i.ibb.co/7jL74c7/KIMG0772.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zQDKJcK)
(https://i.ibb.co/XZmQ1Y2/KIMG0774.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3yt32Rr)
(https://i.ibb.co/5BLRSrS/KIMG0767.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2gdkCvC)
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Lyman pouch just started. Testing pattern and new stitching clamp.
(https://i.ibb.co/rQZry2C/20200426-201644.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6y4Cs03)
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Working on a knife for myself.
(https://i.ibb.co/Rp3B3cW/KIMG0773.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QFPCPMG)
(https://i.ibb.co/MkTQLND/KIMG0766.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r2PNJyG)
(https://i.ibb.co/7jL74c7/KIMG0772.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zQDKJcK)
(https://i.ibb.co/XZmQ1Y2/KIMG0774.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3yt32Rr)
(https://i.ibb.co/5BLRSrS/KIMG0767.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2gdkCvC)
Thats awesome!
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Nice looking projects, guys! I made a pattern for a Lyman pouch today, then couldn’t find a big enough leather piece in my scrap bag to cut it out. Time for a re-supply, I reckon. I don’t have the forging skills for knife making, yet...but I’m thinking about making up a couple more on Green River blades.
Greg
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I like that blade JC!
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Lyman pouch just started. Testing pattern and new stitching clamp.
(https://i.ibb.co/rQZry2C/20200426-201644.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6y4Cs03)
How are you liking the clamp so far?
Mike
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Lyman pouch just started. Testing pattern and new stitching clamp.
(https://i.ibb.co/rQZry2C/20200426-201644.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6y4Cs03)
How are you liking the clamp so far?
Mike
Well, not having worked with one before, I have no way to compare it to others. I did glue some cheap soft leather, rough side out to the jaws to keep from marring the leather being held. I definitely see the advantages of working with one. It is nice not having to juggle everything in my hands. Having the edges of the clamp as a straight edge and a defined position makes pushing the awl through straight a lot easier.
Over all I'd say I'm happy with it. Is it the best one can do? Don't know. For $18 I doubt it, but, for $18 it is a useful tool if one can't make a better one themselves.
The only thing I really would like to improve is clamping power. I'd definitely like to be able to grip my project tighter. But, this project is using very thin leather, I'm sure a thicker project will be clamped harder.
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Brokennock,
Is that a homemade stitching clamp?
Can you show the clamp locking system?
Thanks
Jeff
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Brokennock, on the piece opposite to what you show, there is a machine screw going through. Loosen the little nut and tighten that screw up, and it will tighten up the tension some. I'm still experimenting with trying to get it tight enough for me.
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Brokennock,
Is that a homemade stitching clamp?
Can you show the clamp locking system?
Thanks
Jeff
Jeff, it's a commercial model... I think he got it from Weaver Leather Supply if I'm not mistaken... Which I can be often.
There's a thread down the list here talking about them. Edit: Here's a link...
https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=59469.0
Mike
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Working on a knife for myself.
Good luck with that :D
Tim
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Brokennock,
Is that a homemade stitching clamp?
Can you show the clamp locking system?
Thanks
Jeff
Mike from OK is correct, it is from weaver leather.
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Brokennock, on the piece opposite to what you show, there is a machine screw going through. Loosen the little nut and tighten that screw up, and it will tighten up the tension some. I'm still experimenting with trying to get it tight enough for me.
Ya, I've played with that a bit. I think with thicker leather it will be fine. I need to come up with a little shim for this thinner leather.
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Thanks for the info.
Jeff
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Brokennock,
Is that a homemade stitching clamp?
Can you show the clamp locking system?
Thanks
Jeff
Not the best pics,
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Thanks,
Much appreciated.
Jeff
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Greetings All,
Here's a couple photos of my work in progress. The base plug is inspired by a horn in Madison Grant's "The Kentucky Rifle Hunting Pouch" book - "The pine butt plug has facets left by the strokes of the knife and the pierced knob is an integral part of it."
A while back:
(https://i.ibb.co/hF4fwng/DSC03441.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fdyvLKX)
Now its a more mature horn with its braces off, a defined spout with shoulder, but still with some scrapping to be done:
(https://i.ibb.co/G9DPBkQ/DSC03444.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BGJsdj2)
I'm still debating if I make my first attempt at aging a horn or just go with some green milk paint on the base and stopper and call it done. After all, every horn was brand new at one time.
Thoughts and comments welcome,
Kevin
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Kevin, I like that.
Mike
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Man Kevin I must have missed that one, I like the look and the "Outside the Box" design. Let's paint the one, "Sea Green" or "Butter Milk" Milk Paint and some Brown shoe polish sounds right to me.
Tim
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Very unique, Kevin. I love it.
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Mick, Mike, & Tim,
Thank you for the kind words about the horn.
Further location details about the original horn plug that got this all started: page #153, horn i'd as PH-7 in the small horn section of Madison Grant's Hunting Pouch book.
Tim, a special thank you for the finish suggestion. I'm still letting the horn speak to me about that. In the mean time, I used the search feature here to find mentions of "shoe polish" and came across some good looking horns that you have used it on. There one or two with shoe polish over a horn colored up with AF that really look sharp.
Thanks Again,
Kevin
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BriWax is also a great choice, but it is fussier and stickier to use than shoe polish. Tough stuff though.
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Greetings All,
Well, I think I'm done now. I did go ahead and attempted some light aging (my thought was a hand-me-down horn - grandfather to grandson). The stopper is a "replacement" quickly whittled from a scrap of poplar.
The butt got a coat of Lexington Green milk paint from the Old Fashioned Milk Paint Company which was rubbed back until a touch of paint loss was achieved.
I gathered up a pinch or three of gritty dirt and rubbed the horn to give it some small scratches. Next the whole thing was hit with some vinegar & iron solution followed by some heat. That was followed by a very light coat of light brown Briwax.
Thoughts and observations welcome. Take Care & Stay Safe,
Kevin
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Kevin, I think it came out very nice! I like the distressed look you got on the plug...my daughter does something similar with vintage furniture. So, what’s next?
Greg
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Looks Great to me, wish I had made it :)
Tim
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Kevin, I think it came out very nice! I like the distressed look you got on the plug...my daughter does something similar with vintage furniture. So, what’s next?
Greg
Greg, thanks for the kind words, As to what's next: There's a wood ball tube project that got a small crack in the open end begging for a repair, a thick tip of a cow horn that looks like it should become a powder measure, and a small skinny horn without much curve whose future is not yet determined.
Take Care,
Kevin
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Looks Great to me, wish I had made it :)
Tim
Tim, Many thanks. Looking at a many horns here on the ALR forum, including a bunch of yours, inspired me to attempt the light aging on this project.
Take Care,
Kevin
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WHAT A SLICK LOOKING COLLECTION OF ACCOUTREMENTS. Thanks so much