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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: Justin Urbantas on April 30, 2020, 07:04:45 PM
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Looks like I won last month's shoot, so it's my turn to pick and judge this month's shoot.
This month's shoot is inspired by the beef shoot in Fess Parker's Davy Crockett (one of my favourites)
For this month you'll need a piece of 8 1/2" ×11" paper, ruler, scissors, pen, a soup can, and a target backer of your choice.
Make an X corner to corner on your paper and cut out one of the narrow triangles.
Tape/staple this to a target backer of your choice. Do your best to center a soup can on the X, and trace around it. The goal is to put your shots in the notch without cutting the white paper.
The target is scored as marked, and the match will be 5 offhand shots at 25 yards.
I'll do the half ball rule on it. Wherever 1/2 or more of your ball is, that's how you'll score. Possible max score is 50, and low score is -50.
Match is open till May 31st. Winner of the match will receive a package of beef jerky in the mail.
Have fun with it guys. Please mark your targets with score, date, and load/gun info. One attempt please, and even if you don't score well, please post your target.
Good luck everyone. Aim small, miss small....
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Ooh, good one.
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Nice shooting on the last match Justin. You shoot that little .45 cal rifle very well.
And I like this contest. You should probably give us a diameter of the circle...there's lots of soup cans of different sizes, from single serving to 1 gallon. I'm in in any event.
Taylor
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this will be fun! :)
Thanks for putting this on.
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I tried a similar target in our club’s social distancing shoot and did awful. Hopefully I used up all my bad shots.
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Nice shooting on the last match Justin. You shoot that little .45 cal rifle very well.
And I like this contest. You should probably give us a diameter of the circle...there's lots of soup cans of different sizes, from single serving to 1 gallon. I'm in in any event.
Taylor
Thank you Taylor.
I've had that rifle for 15 years now. I have it pretty well figured out. Too bad it isn't one I built.
I used a 284 ml chicken noodle soup can. It's right at 2 5/8" diameter.
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That's perfect. Thanks for the reply. Good luck, everyone, though I doubt luck has anything to do with this.
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Justin would it be okay to shoot from a wheelchair? yip
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Justin would it be okay to shoot from a wheelchair? yip
Absolutely. If you have a mobility/health issue please take whatever steps you need to shoot.
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Justin would it be okay to shoot from a wheelchair? yip
Absolutely. If you have a mobility/health issue please take whatever steps you need to shoot.
Just don’t try to use the Chinese Virus as reason to use a lead sled.... :)
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I used a 284 ml chicken noodle soup can. It's right at 2 5/8" diameter.
It's a 2 5/8" can Justin. Nobody makes 284 ml soup cans. Not even Canadians.
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Justin: This looks like a hoot. I am in and will post my target good or bad. Thanks for doing it and congratulations on winning last months shoot.
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I used a 284 ml chicken noodle soup can. It's right at 2 5/8" diameter.
It's a 2 5/8" can Justin. Nobody makes 284 ml soup cans. Not even Canadians.
:P
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Thanks Mike. Should be fun. I'll probably get out and shoot mine next weekend.
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I used a 284 ml chicken noodle soup can. It's right at 2 5/8" diameter.
It's a 2 5/8" can Justin. Nobody makes 284 ml soup cans. Not even Canadians.
:P
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That may have been a cross measurement metric joke...
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Results will be posted using my newly coned barreled Kibler .40 caliber SMR tomorrow weather permitting.
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Looks like you lost that one JOSE .Who would have known!!!!
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I'm going to use a campbells cream of mushroom can. Hope it's ok! :-\
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Looks like you lost that one JOSE .Who would have known!!!!
Dang! Another beautiful theory destroyed by an ugly fact.
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I'm going to use a campbells cream of mushroom can. Hope it's ok! :-\
I think about a 9 1/2 to 10oz can would be about right - of course 2 5/8" would be close to perfect.
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What range is this supposed to be shot at?
No powder burns on the paper right?? ;)
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The target is scored as marked, and the match will be 5 offhand shots at 25 yards.
This I copied from Justin's initial post.
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Dang!
Thanks Taylor! I read it at least twice and still didn't see it :o LOL
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Hey Muskrat, thanks for being 1st but your group looks invisibly perfect from here. :D
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Can I borrow the can you used, Mike?
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Sorry, foto now is loading! Nice conservative effort and really working that half-ball rule. ;D
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looks good Mike. It's a tricky target. You can decide to hold high, and go for the easy 25 points, or risk it all and go for the 10 pointers.
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No. They were all supposed to be in the +10 triangle! This getting old and wobbly ain't what it's cracked up to be!
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I hear ya Muskrat. In my old Bullseye days, my moment of arc was a dime or less, now it more like moment of Jock-O-Lantern!
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Just talking to Taylor. We're planning on shooting it this weekend.
Sorry I missed Mike's shoot. Don't quite have the "Busy" excuse now, do I?
I know, the 'range' was too long.
Just made a target. Didn't have a 2 5/8" can, but did have a 2 1/2" can and the pen line is exactly just a hair under 2 5/8"- good enough.
Guess I'll use the .69.
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Taylor and I shot the postal match. Not good, but oh well. LOL
2 10;s, 2 5's and one -5 = score 25. .69 cal. rifle, 82gr. 2F GOEX,
.022" canvas patch and .683" slightly hard (alloy) balls.
(https://i.ibb.co/GtpBDBz/ALR-Postal.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yYPGCGH)
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As Daryl has so eloquently said, could have been better, but was not. Here's my submission for May. I used my Kuntz rifle .40 cal. with 60 gr. 3Fg Graf powder and a saliva lubed .018" denim patch. I score 3 x 10, 1 x 5, and 1 x -5 = 30/50. My last shot was my -5, a hangfire. Lesson, pay closer attention to your flint.
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You boys were pushing for the gold! Nice shootin.
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Bob; now that you have those 2 fine new rifles lets get out to your range and shoot a target.
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I went to the range today to keep working up my smoothbore and how to aim it and while there tried the postal match target with my 11 pound Hawken-ish .45 rifle. I’m not sure if this is a re-entry match or not. Let’s say I was feeling kinda negative about my first target. ;D
Second was better, a 20. Going to give it another go with a lighter rifle and keep that 11 pound gun for cross stick and bench work.
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Rich: I don't know if this breaks rules or not either, but I'd like to shoot another target with a different rifle. My next choice would be a .40 cal Kibler Mountain Rifle. It has set triggers, which I think would be an advantage. We'll see. It is not an easy contest.
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Thought I would join in the fun. No wise cracks please about that first shot (high left)!🤓.
Thanks for putting this on, Skychief.
PS, failed to mention that I used a powderpuff load of 12-13 grains of Swiss 3f.
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Seems like 25-30 is where most folks are scoring. You can shoot it and post it again for fun, but only the first target counts towards the match. Good job guys. I'm going to shoot mine next weekend.
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I plan on shooting it again. I cast up some pure lead balls today.
They HAVE to shoot better. ::)
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Well boys, I'm in for a minus 10 score. Course, I was shooting a new rifle, the sun got in my eyes, my prime was a little damp, and a gusty breeze was coming in from 9:00 o'clock. LOL
Seriously, shooting it made me want to load up and shoot it again, because I KNOW I can do better than that. Thanks for a good morning of shooting.
Self built .36 caliber flintlock. 35 grains of 3F Goex with a .020 patch.
Darryl
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This is a fun target. May make time to shoot it again with one of my more familiar rifles today. The little Cherokee called to me yesterday. I'd bought it a couple years ago at an auction and hadn't fired it more than 10-15 times.
Thanks for the challenging target, Skychief.
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looks like a fun target thanks!
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Rained off and on today - maybe tomorrow.
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Well, I managed to sneak out for a bit, and shoot my target. Who's idea was this? It's tricky! I scored 15.
This was with .440 rb, 50 grains ffg, .018 patch lubed with Lehigh valley lube.
The other target with the two .45 in the 10 ring were my fouling shots.
Rainy and windy here too, but I wanted to get out.
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IT'S A nice group Justin. It's tricky to put them in that little piece of pie, isn't it?
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It's a lot harder than I thought. As soon as my sight would settle in the notch my mind made me pull it up subconsciously.
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How about that? IT happens. Happened to me twice.
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Our soup comes in cans the same size as coffee cans. Can I use one of those???? ('bout 6" across! LOL.)
Hope to get a crack at this as weather turned wet for farming....
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I used a "compass" to make up 3 more targets - the radius is 1.3125". That way, using the intersection of the diagonal lines,
the circle is centered perfectly (Mike) ;) ;D.
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I was looking closer at Mike's target, and the circle is a little higher than it should be, and the circle is oblong. To keep it fair for everyone, I would have to say that it wouldn't pass the half ball rule if the circle was circular and centered. I would mark it as a 25, not a 30. Sorry Mike. Still mighty fine shooting.
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Justin: I agree whole hardly I dashed together the original target on the way to the range. Never intended to mislead anyone or hurt feelings. I have deleted the original post and replaced it with the circle drawn exactly centered and score corrected. My bad.
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Justin: I agree whole hardly I dashed together the original target on the way to the range. Never intended to mislead anyone or hurt feelings. I have deleted the original post and replaced it with the circle drawn exactly centered and score corrected. My bad.
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. Not a problem. It's hard to centre a circle when you can't see the middle of the x
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I used a "compass" to make up 3 more targets - the radius is 1.3125". That way, using the intersection of the diagonal lines,
the circle is centered perfectly (Mike) ;) ;D.
What I did also Dayrl, but I haven't shot it yet.
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This was with my heavy .45. Hoping to improve with my lighter rifle next weekend.
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Once I knew what the diameter of the circle was supposed to be, it was a simple matter to set up a compass at 1 5/16" radius, and using the intersection of the white and black, strike a circle. That put the circle exactly where it was supposed to be.
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Justin: I agree whole hardly I dashed together the original target on the way to the range. Never intended to mislead anyone or hurt feelings. I have deleted the original post and replaced it with the circle drawn exactly centered and score corrected. My bad.
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I don't think anyone was hurt, Mike. I found it quite amusing and thought IT was (a joke) on purpose. ;)
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Daryl: nope just an old guy in a hurry who didn't take the time to build a "proper" target. At 30 points I didn't hesitate to post it figuring ther would be several 35's, 40, 45, and maybe a 50. Everyone else obviously found this target just as challenging as I did. That's the reason I reposted the corrected target.
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I made up a target with the computer that can be done in a PDF if anyone wants to use it. I think it can be attached here as a file??? Not sure?
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Justin: you must've left Paradise, Mt. and headed back up to B.C. if you're measuring your soup in ml. instead of ounces and a French spelled label. Don't mean to steal your target thread, but we had an outdoor meeting last Tues. night (6' apart ? ) and voted to hold our spring shoot out in Marion again (that'd be the 14th - 17th) and for the "viris" no Saturday night pot-luck. The Tobacco River boys in Eureka had to cancel April, and I guess the Wildhorse shoot W. of Missoula had to cancel on their Forest Service lease for Memorial Day. Will we see ya'?
flatheadvalleymuzzleloaders.com
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Yeah, I'm back in B.C. I won't be making it to any shoots in Montana for some time. I might visit in August if Coronavirus is under control.
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Here are my two entries:
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It was fun, but I could have done better (slightly larger diameter RB instead of the ones I used).
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Had a great group going on that second target, Paul.
As for larger balls, I used .682's.
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Thanks, Daryl. Those other 2 shots help keep me humble! ;)
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LOL - they indeed do that, even if there is only one of them.
We'll see how we do tomorrow, or Sunday, not sure which;D
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Well, I was going to shoot my target today, but it was minus 7 deg this morning and it snowed last night. :(
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Jeez Bob. Where are you? Here in northern BC it's 20 and sunny
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BC is currently enjoying the best weather in Canada. Daryl and I are going to give this target a second chance today.
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Eastern Ontario, an hours drive north of Kingston. It's supposed to warm up to plus 2 degrees today.
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Are[ powder burned targets considered as being questionable?? ;D
Bob Roller
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Are[ powder burned targets considered as being questionable?? ;D
Bob Roller
Do like a good hitman would do and put a pillow over the target....
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I see, or to put it better, don't see Daryl's today target! Come-on Bro......
Shot the target again today just for fun...neither of us did as well as our first effort. But here's mine from May 9th...
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Really good group except that flyer.
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Thanks Justin...but there's two that detract from the score. Goes to show how little of a mistake can make a huge difference. Difficult target.
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After supper. Wasn't going to post it. LOL :-\
I make this -20 - do I win?
Just couldn't get it up.
The high shot, that is arguably in or out, was called.
All the rest felt good. Imagine that.
Same load as before, but pure lead balls this time.
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Wish I could shoot this target, my club is closed due to the virous.
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My 2 attempts. Lyman GPR, 80 gr 3f Goex, ,015 patch, .530 ball. 25 yards off hand
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After supper. Wasn't going to post it. LOL :-\
I make this -20 - do I win?
Just couldn't get it up.
The high shot, that is arguably in or out, was called.
All the rest felt good. Imagine that.
Same load as before, but pure lead balls this time.
(https://i.ibb.co/0YCNb83/IMG-2849.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5srDHtV)
You know, you're not supposed to shoot blindfolded, right Daryl? ;)
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Thanks for shooting the match and sharing your target, Dave.
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After supper. Wasn't going to post it. LOL :-\
I make this -20 - do I win?
Just couldn't get it up.
The high shot, that is arguably in or out, was called.
All the rest felt good. Imagine that.
Same load as before, but pure lead balls this time.
(https://i.ibb.co/0YCNb83/IMG-2849.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5srDHtV)
You know, you're not supposed to shoot blindfolded, right Daryl? ;)
Shooting blindfolded wasn't so bad, but he spun me around three times - that made it hard to hold steady.
That's why it's a horizontal group - except for the one I called a bit high, of course. ;) ;) nudge nudge
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Haha you should practice in a spinning office chair
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Still too cold and snowing again here >:( Hopefully tomorrow will be more conducive to shooting my target .
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Where the heck do you live that it is still snowing in mid-may?
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LOL - he's only 100 miles North of Kingston, Ontario.
Balmy sunny 20C here today, same tomorrow & we're about 600 miles North of Bob.
That's 68 ForeignHeat.
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I see, or to put it better, don't see Daryl's today target! Come-on Bro......
Shot the target again today just for fun...neither of us did as well as our first effort. But here's mine from May 9th...
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That is undeniable, legitimate offhand shooting.....
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Yeah - he's been doing pretty good since he got his eyes fixed.
LOL- He wasn't too shabby before he got them fixed, but it is harder
to beat him now - AS YOU CAN SEE! ;D
He shoots that 11 pound Virginia C-weight .50 rifle fairly well.
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Good shooting there!
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I'd be thrilled with that result! Great shooting Taylor.
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He cheated - it's got a loooooong barl.
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He cheated - it's got a loooooong barl.
Ah, the old 24' barrel and Cellophane over the target trick....
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LOL - just goes to show, a 10 pound rifle with a 42" bl. holds nicely.
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LOL - just goes to show, a 10 pound rifle with a 42" bl. holds nicely.
That depends on how the 10 pounds is distributed over the length of the rifle :)
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LOL - just goes to show, a 10 pound rifle with a 42" bl. holds nicely.
I do like a minimum of 9 lbs and something like a 45” barrel for decent offhand shooting.
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too heavy for me. My arms get tired. 7-8 lbs is more my style
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LOL - just goes to show, a 10 pound rifle with a 42" bl. holds nicely.
That depends on how the 10 pounds is distributed over the length of the rifle :)
It's a Virginia rifle, with a "C" weight .50 cal barrel, the balance is perfect - for him - and not too shabby for me as well.
I prefer a little more muzzle weight. My 9 1/2 pound English-styled gun is a little light for standing target shooting but it's
a perfect weight for absorbing hunting load recoil. Never feel it when shooting at a moose.
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Okay folks, we've had some good entries and fine targets shot for this month's shoot. You folks have one last weekend to get out there and see what you can do. I hope to see a couple more shooters give it a try.
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I hope to get mine done today :)
Nope- got rained out. Maybe tomorrow.
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Spring seeding is late this year, and up to eyes in it.
Hope to shoot this, but possibility of such is fading...
Richard.
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Me and stymie shot ours today. Here's mine, .445, 35g fff
.o20 spit.
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Here’s my disappointing target. 5/30/2020 from stymie.
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Difficult target it was indeed. The next one, if Taylor chooses it , will be easy. ( ::))
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Finally, the weather cooperated. Sun cloud mix with temp at 10 deg C and plenty of black flies and mosquitoes to deflect the balls :) Used my flint .40 cal , .390 balls with 40 gr 3F Score of 20 , minus 10 = 10
Very difficult target. 1st shot was the minus 10, then the 3 higher in the 5 . Forced myself to shoot lower, but was just outside the 10 . This was a lot of fun.
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Well, well. Appears bro gets to pick the next one - YIKES! :o
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Sorry for the muddy target; there is a story!
Shot today, 5-31-2020 at 5:00 PM EST from the porch of our Line Shack at Windy Hill Farms.
25 Yards Offhand
Edwards/Kibler Colonial .54 Cal.
65 gr. DuPont FFFg
.530 Hornady
.18 OxYoke w/Ballistol (wet).
Target became easier after the 1st shot making a tunnel effect for enhanced light contrast.
I leave it for you eagle eyed guys to score.
(https://i.ibb.co/GWNk2Fd/DSDickson-May-2020-Postal-Target.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7nLVWbS)
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Good job to all the shooters this month. We had quite a few entries for this tricky shoot. I would like to congratulate Taylor for winning with a very respectable score of 30. He has the the honour of selecting the shoot for June. Send me your address Taylor, and I'll mail you some jerky, or bring it for you to Heffley in August.
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Thank you Justin. Let's save the postal charges and we'll meet again at BC Rendezvous end of August. I think I've got a fun target for our next challenge....see new thread on postal shoot.