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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: WESTbury on May 27, 2020, 06:54:57 PM
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Lot#1051 Moravian Rifle went for $70k
Lot#1085 New Hampshire Battalion marked Charleville went for $40k
Not sure if the above includes 20% Buyers Premium, probably not.
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There’s a tomahawk in there that went through the roof. And into outer space. Lots of horns bringing high prices too. Anything Revolutionary War linked seems highest.
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There’s a tomahawk in there that went through the roof. And into outer space.
Perhaps the two astronauts going up into orbit later today will be able to retrieve it.
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Amazed the rifle didn't go higher considering the Lion and Lamb price, but one shouldn't look for consistency and logic in such things. Hard to think of a better pipe hawk, but yes that did well.
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I think the association of the Lion and the Lamb rifle with the Revolutionary War boosted it.
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I don't know if the Lion and Lamb rifle actually sold. The bid was at the low end of estimate, and the auction results do not include that rifle. It may have been withdrawn.
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I don't know if the Lion and Lamb rifle actually sold. The bid was at the low end of estimate, and the auction results do not include that rifle. It may have been withdrawn.
That is correct, it did not sell.
(https://i.ibb.co/H4FKpX8/LION-LAMB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C81wsWG)
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Thank you WESTbury for the clarification on the L&L rifle.
Rich and all, it appears that Lot 1051 did not sell today, either. It no longer shows up in the program with bid results, or by Search. Owner may have withdrawn the rifle.
It is a treat to have access to great photos when offered at auction, and we hope the owners continue to show and share these wonderful old rifles and smooth rifles. Bob
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Might someone please provide a link to the results?
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You can see the results on Proxibid and on Morphy's website.
Lot#1153 Dutch Musket with "TOWN OF BOSTON" brand in the butt went for $33,825. This musket had a better chance of possibly being used in The Rev War than the Dutch musket auctioned last October for $400+k.
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Might someone please provide a link to the results?
Just search online for Morphy Auctions and look at the current one.
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They do a good job of hiding the tab to get to realized prices, but I did find it. Seems the recent market crash and sub-zero economic conditions did not impact many bidders. Most seem to have brought well over estimates and way the heck over on some items.
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;D Like I said in another thread, Good stuff still brings good prices!
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Lot#1051 Moravian Rifle went for $70k
Lot#1085 New Hampshire Battalion marked Charleville went for $40k
Not sure if the above includes 20% Buyers Premium, probably not.
Looks like 28% plus PA sales tax of 6%...for those which did sell!
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I can't be right as to commission & tax, as Morphy is showing $664,200 with cmssn...
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Impressive auction and even more impressive prices. Maybe a lottery ticket every so often is not so unresaonable, toward the next auction. The bargain to my eye was the early 'Smith' musket lock. That should be worth much more than the bidder paid. Some of the small axe heads appeared to be good values, as well. Surprised that the Butler Tomahawk did not fetch more. Next time it sells will be closer to a million dollars, if it doesn't exceed that price. To my mind, that is the most important and attractive historical artifact that has yet come to light. Thre may be others, but where? Glad to see that values of some items are holding strong.
Dick
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It was a good auction. Revolutionary War items continue to be strong. I did get the Admiral Duckworth fusil and feel I paid a fair price for it. I had that particular fusil in my hands at a gun show several years ago and it was priced to me for $15,000 at that time.
Al
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I'm amazed the Butler pipe tomahawk didn't sell for at least a million. the buyer sure got a good investment, i think.
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I believe the prices shown on Morphy's site include a 23% Buyers Premium. There is a 3% discount if paid with check or wired funds. The actual sale price of the tomahawk would be
$644,274.00.
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I wonder if it is going to end up in the Military Vehicle Museum in Wyoming, where that Dutch musket went last October.
It seems like an obscene amount of money given our current economic circumstances.
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Good chance that some of the things are in Wyoming. I wish that I had obscene amounts of money. Oh well! Does anyone know if the fellow in Wyoming welcomes visitors?
Scott, appreciate your comments and will read your papers cited above.
Dick
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Dick--Per the website, NMMV.org, the grand opening was to be May 25th. Postponed indefinitely. The site's message is to monitor them for updates. I think in sparsely populated Wyoming, this social distancing $#@* will not be a problem.
Kent
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So Dan is the CEO of St. Jude medical and all those poor kids begging for donations and Dan knocks down over 7 million a year?
Tell me it ain't so!
https://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/12/4NJI.html
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I found Dan's doppleganger. :)
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Dan! Dan? Sure you have the right thread, or is this some inside thing?
Dick
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I think the message is that Dan Starks, the dude behind the 100 million dollar museum and as pictured in the Forbes article (link in my initial post) looks a lot like "Lurch" from the Munster's.
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I think we are getting well off track discussing the finances of some collector. Please discuss the collectables.
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Actually, this museum will be a great place to visit.
The firearm collection looks extensive from the brief shots of it in their video, but seems to be mostly automatic weapons and crew served weapons. Many tracked vehicles, etc.
The only flintlock shown in the video is the Dutch musket from Morphy's Auctions Oct 2019 auction. Seeing as how the museum has a military history theme, I doubt that there are many longrifles.