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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: bob in the woods on January 02, 2021, 01:01:13 AM
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Happy New year everyone. Hard to believe that I won the 3 way tie in Dec by luck of the " draw " !!
I would like to suggest a target for January which I found on the printable targets site. [ bullseye target # 18 ]
Outer ring would score an 8, then next a 9 and the centre ring a 10 with of course the centre an " X "
Off hand at 25 yards, but any shot on paper , not in the rings is scored as a miss.
Also, just to make things a bit different, and hopefully have some smoothbore entries, you are
allowed 7 shots, count your best 5 . Best score possible is a 50 5 X
You can submit 3 targets. 1/2 ball rule. Shoot as many as you like.
Prize is a period type combination tool
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My computer skills don't amount to much, so I have sent a link re the target to Daryl, so I hope he can share it ASAP. Meanwhile, I'll keep trying to post it
Target will be printed on a standard sheet of printing paper
ADD ON !!! As many of you may know, I do most of my hunting with a smoothbore. I'm going to go all out on this match and will offer another prize of " The Kentucky Rifle " book by John Dillin.
[published by George Shumway] to the best smoothbore target submitted. Same rules. Feel free to enter both rifle and smoothbore if you like. I really want to see what the smoothy shooters can do :)
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The prize looks great - I need.
https://www.targets.ws/bullseye-targets.htm
I think this is the Target Bob wants.
He has asked me to add anything I think pertinent/helpful to his match.
https://www.targets.ws/shooting-targets/bullseye-target-18.pdf
I printed one off and on my printer (black only), the centre is almost black, a VERY dark grey.
I would suggest that if you need a larger aiming point than the black .832" square, a larger 'bud'(black centre)
could be stapled or taped over the middle of the target, or placed wherever it is needed, as in chunk shooting
in order to hit the centre of this target.
Correction made to the "X" ring size. I measure it as .832", not 1". I think that is a very good size for the centre & the method of scoring
best 5 out of 7 - quite lenient.
Yes Richard, we ALL need a lot more practice. I can "see" this month being a flintlock-only month. No "cheating" with the big gun.
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Perfect !!
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I've printed off a dozen targets, Taylor. Tomorrow?
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I made up a dozen as well, on 60# paper. I'm on for tomorrow! 10 am at the field?
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Rule clarification Bob, please? Is the intent: Three targets submission for score, or you're only allowed to shoot three targets?
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Sounds good to me, Taylor. I printed off some 'bud' spotters
may or may not need one.
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This is it?
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Yes scoring 8/9/10/X's
X's are .832" black square with red centre from coloured printers.
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This is it?
Yes, that's the one :)
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Rule clarification Bob, please? Is the intent: Three targets submission for score, or you're only allowed to shoot three targets?
Three targets submitted for score. Shoot 20 if you want. That's the whole point of this as far I I'm concerned !
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For those of us without a printer, can we get the size of the circles and just draw with a compass?
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Richard: would you like me to mail you a bunch?
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Taylor,
Thank you for the very kind offer, but I am sure that others will also be bereft of a printer, so if we could get the size of the circles, we could likely do it the old way.
PS, we Do have an old printer, but it is a terrible old reprobate of a thing, and we do not get along together!l!
We are not on speaking terms... ;)
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We have an old computer and a relatively new printer. Until I could get my IT son in law over here to reprogram things, the printer and computer would not communicate. Everything is working smoothly now. Knowing what buttons to push, and in which order, makes a big difference. Does that help?
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Richard, I will see if I can print a copy and then measure the diameters of the rings.
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Richard and others:
If using a compass, then 1/2of these would be the setting, of course.
Outer 8 ring is 8 1/16" OD
9 ring is 6 13/16" OD
10 ring is 4 1/8" OD
X square is 13/16" OD square, set as a double ended diamond.
The inner circle in the X is immaterial.
It's too windy today, maybe tomorrow for us.
Interesting addition of a smoothbore event - Bravo Bob!
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Thank you Daryl, that should do nicely.
Taylor, when I was a little lad, the only button was the doorbell! I have not improved greatly since those days.
Oh yes, and the starter button on the floor of the car... Two buttons. :-)
And yes, Bravo Bob!
I will try this with Dudley.....my short snapping matchlock. (smooth bore)
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It is a beautiful snowy, slightly overcast day here, only minus 6 or so . I thought I'd start this off with a smoothbore target just to get things rolling [ even though I'm not "competing " ]
Took a walk back to my tipi and followed some deer tracks which ran into some coyote tracks !
Anyway, 7 shots with the 20 bore. Counting the best 5 gives me a 49. This a very smoothbore friendly target
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Got out today, shot two targets. StevenV
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bob in the woods, This AM I looked at the printed targets on my desk and thought about using my smoothbore for this month's Frolic. If the weather cooperates, I may do just that!
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Good shooting Steven.
After a really close look, and it's really really close, I'm changing the score to 50 2 X and 50 3 X
That one ball on the right hand target is a hair's breath away from not being 1/2 in the X , but after enlarging the target , it's in to my eyes . Keep shooting. This is exciting !
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bob in the woods, This AM I looked at the printed targets on my desk and thought about using my smoothbore for this month's Frolic. If the weather cooperates, I may do just that!
Why not shoot both rifle and smoothbore ? The more shooting, the better.
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By some miracle we were able to acquire two printer cartridges for our printer... One black, one color. And we are slated for some better weather soon.
Ill print a few off and see what I can do at 25 yds off hand.
Mike
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Beats mine Nice shooting, Steven. Taylor did better than I did.
I scored mine as 49 1X. LOL- just couldn't keep it together. The outside at
1 o'clock was my 7th shot. I started with the 2 nines, 1st and second.
.50 Beck
70gr. 3F GOEX .495" cast and swaged - mixed.
10 ounce denim I measure at .021"
25 yard (laser) offhand
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I like this target Bob. I used my S. Hawken percussion rifle again for this first target.
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My first five were all touching or in the X ring, which all but obliterated the centre making my next shot rather chancy. It went low at 6 o'clock, out of the group. So I put up a bud on the centre (1 1/8" black disc of card stock) and fired my 7th round. I also went low at 7 o'clock.
I scored this target 50 3X, but of course, you have the final word.
With the whole month ahead of us, I expect to see some really dandy targets...hope some are mine.
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Just remembered I Do have a percussion rifle. barrel chopped at about 25 " though.....
Might try that as well!
Taylor,
That target is discouraging to a lot of us. Please try harder to shoot worse!
:-)
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Just remembered I Do have a percussion rifle. barrel chopped at about 25 " though.....
Might try that as well!
Taylor,
That target is discouraging to a lot of us. Please try harder to shoot worse!
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Exactly - told you it's been difficult to beat him since he had his cataracts fixed. ::) ::) ::)
Guess I have to cast some more balls for the .69, just to have a chance on this one. 2 now tied at 3X.
BTW- we switched rifles for one target - ;D ;D - that was funny - NOT. WE both shot worse.
I should also note, he was far from easy before he got his eyes, fixed.
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Is it too late for a new guy to jump in? I have some kids that might be interested too. Would they need to have their own subscriptions to ALR?
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It's never too late to join in this match. The whole point of it is to get folks here out and shooting.
As far as your kids are concerned, are we talking "kids" or 35 year olds who normally don't have any interest in this site ? Just wondering .
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Kids as in my 17 yr old son and a friend or two. Possibly my 14 yr old daughter and maybe a 23 yr old daughter. I tried a mail-in shoot on another forum and their rules were for members only. It was a bit of a pain getting minors registered.
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Just printed up some targets. I will start with my smoothbore, since I have a muzzleloading Javelina hunt coming up in February.
I will probably do most of my shooting with it until then.
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Kids as in my 17 yr old son and a friend or two. Possibly my 14 yr old daughter and maybe a 23 yr old daughter. I tried a mail-in shoot on another forum and their rules were for members only. It was a bit of a pain getting minors registered.
After much contemplation, in fairness to all, I'm going to come down on the side of members only.
This is and has been a friendly, member sponsored match. Hopefully your kids and friends will still shoot along with you just for the fun of it .
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First rifle...CVA Hawken, 50 caliber, .490 ball, .015 patch. 5 shots for a 48. Second rifle GPR .54 caliber, .530 ball, .015 patch. 5 shots for a 47. Great day to shoot here in Tennessee. Don't see me improving so I'll submit my 48 and be happy.
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Welcome to the match, Dave. I scored your targets as 48 , and 47 1X . Don't want to forget that X ! Nice shooting .
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And don't forget you have an opportunity to fire 7, not five shots, and take your best five. I'm only counting 5 shots on each target.
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Thank you. Wasn't sure how to score the X. Great match and target. Wish more in my area would shoot long rifles but there is so little interest here. I'm jealous of those clubs out west and in the north and northeast. Would love to make it to Friendship if things ever return to normal.
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Kids as in my 17 yr old son and a friend or two. Possibly my 14 yr old daughter and maybe a 23 yr old daughter. I tried a mail-in shoot on another forum and their rules were for members only. It was a bit of a pain getting minors registered.
Should not be here, if so let me know.
Dennis
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If I’m scoring this correct it’s a 50? Looks like I was trying to avoid the X
Tony
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Yes, that is a 50 :)
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Nice, Tony, I shot a couple of those today.
Both targets have 7 shots in them. They are worse than
what I've already posted, so not for score, just to show we (Taylor and I) got out today.
The one on the right is likely a 1X. might be 2X or 3X but hard to tell, with both being 50/50.
The 9 on the left-hand target was my 7th shot.
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Great target there Daryl!
Tony
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Was going to go tomorrow. Not sure I want to after seeing those targets. Just kidding I'll get out there between rain storms this week or next to embarrass myself as usual.
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Nice, Tony, I shot a couple of those today.
Both targets have 7 shots in them. They are worse than
what I've already posted, so not for score, just to show we (Taylor and I) got out today.
The one on the right is likely a 1X. might be 2X or 3X but hard to tell, with both being 50/50.
The 9 on the left-hand target was my 7th shot.
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Daryl. I blew up ...sorry, poor choice of words. I enlarged your target, and using my overlay for various size balls, I pretty confident in calling the right hand target a 50 2 X
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Tks bob- the top hole and left hand holes appear "in", but - it will take a 4X to win.
Long way to go, but I did cast up some more fodder for the cannon. ;D
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Daryl, and anyone else shooting large bore guns , rifled or smoothbore; it may be advantageous to utilize two target copies, with 4 shots on one and 3 on the other which should help in the X verifications. Clearly this match has seen and will see many scores of 50 + so it's the X's that will determine a win.
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I was thinking the same thing, Bob - ie: using 2 targets.
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I got out and shot my .62 smoothbore. I shot two targets but I'm only submitting one. It was a pretty day, temps in the high 40s.
It was very bright.
My first target I tried shooting as is , That was ok but the mirage got so bad on the third shot I couldn't see center. So I placed a spotter or "bud" and continued shooting.
That first target wasn't bad but not as good as the one I am posting.
I was using 80 grains of 2f Goex, .600 wheel weight balls, and JoAn's #40 cotton Drill lubed with bear oil.
I took photo in the shade since it was so bright I could't see screen. Light shined through the holes.
First two shots were in the upper right quadrant, third was just of 6 o'clock. The 4th was the X the fifth was the 9 at 3 o'clock. the 6th was the 10 at 9 o'clock. The last shot was the other 9.
I score it a 50 with one X.
I will try to shoot this again with the smooth bore, though I doubt I will better my score. I hopefully get to shoot at it with one of my rifles.
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THAT is good shooting. Well done, alacran.
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This is just a clarification question on the rules for the smoothbore match...I am assuming that no rear sight is allowed, Bob...is this correct?
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I always assume that smooth bore match means gun without a rear sight. Also a gun that is .54 caliber or larger. No set triggers. Even a sling that would go over the barrel instead of a swivel would not be allowed.
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I had not thought about calibre or bore size, but my understanding is a gun, smooth of bore, no rifling and without a rear sight above the plane of the barrel.
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Yes, that is correct , Taylor. I guess I just assume that since none of the smoothbore matches I've attended allowed them. Just to be clear, I'm going on record here that scopes aren't allowed on the rifles either ;D And...this is a round ball match.
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On page three and still fixing the rules boys? ;)
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& nothing smaller than 16 bore. ::)
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On page three and still fixing the rules boys? ;)
Yes Richard. I'm old and confused ;D
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Supposed to be +6 here on Sunday.
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Supposed to be +6 here on Sunday.
Heat Wave!
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On page three and still fixing the rules boys? ;)
Yes Richard. I'm old and confused ;D
Same here Bob!
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On page three and still fixing the rules boys? ;)
And thus this turns into a prime example of why most people don't shoot competitively. What was supposed to be just a fun way to shoot has evolved into sudden changes, new rules a week into the match, requirements of NMLRA rules paragraph 4, page 6, subsection C, etc. You boys have at it, the targets I printed are going in the fire and my smoothbore is heading back to the woods.
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Osprey,
I feel for you, And for Bob!
I can not speak for anyone else, but am sure this event was supposed to be a fun thing, yet certain rules seem to be required, and the more this was discussed, more over-sights seem to come to light.
I know this is upsetting to all, But, not intentional.
FWIW, I too thought to use a smoothbore,( both original matchlocks and home-mades,) But, all have rear sights, LOL!
Then I thought about percussion and yes, have two I could use,....then remembered one is an 1840's original pattern F EIC musket. ...it has a rear sight too!
The other percussion is a cut down P '53....and It fires a minie type so it's out as well! LOL!
Still, we must look on the amusing side of this, and not get bent out of shape..
I still have a flint rifle or two. :-)
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Richard, I have shot almost every match I have entered before under the NMLRA rules. It's become ingrained in me and around here, these rules are pretty much assumed to apply by everyone. That's why I didn't list every little detail etc
And yes, the main object is to have fun and get some shooting done.
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This match is all about getting out and shooting our beloved long rifles. It never has been about the compitition just having fun and seeing what others are shooting. I still look forward to each months shoot even though 2 of the 3 clubs I shoot at are up and having matches and the range I belong to is open for business I will still shoot this every month. If your unhappy with the postal match don't shoot it or win it and set up your own target, distance, and prize.
With all that is going on let's see more smiles and less frowns.
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Bob,
Please don't worry about this. It is all meant to be fun, and if some of us don't know about rules, its because we never shot at a a proper match!
That's not your fault!
I look forward to trying it with my old rifle. :)
Quite agree with your post, Muskrat.
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Well we got out. I have a pair of targets to post, 1st 5 shots on one, a 50 2X and the
last 2 shots on another making my score, it appears, a 50 3X. Seems a 3-way tie.
25 yards - (Laser)
standing/offhand
14 bore rifle
15 bore pure lead ball
82gr. 3F GOEX
.022" compressed denim (back of legs)
Spit for lube
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While Daryl was chewing the centres out of his targets, I blasted away at mine with my smoothie, a Chambers' Pennsylvania fowler in 20 gauge. Extremely difficult. The snow and the white target sheet caused the barrel to glare like the snow, making it very difficult to acquire a sight picture that meant anything. The result was, I was shooting nice one hole groups 2 1/2" to the left. It took me three targets before I was anywhere remotely happy with my shooting, and the following target does not represent my best by any means. It is what it isn't. I will try again another day.
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Nice shooting all around. Keep the targets coming, There's still lot's of time.
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Went out today and shot, 50/1, 50/2 and 50/3, no need for pics. I need a 50/4, will try again next week. Do any of you use JB bore cleaner? Highly recommend it, after every 100 shots thru the barrel run a patch with JB (5-10) passes thru the barrel. It will tighten your groups up a little bit , taking a 1 1/2" group down to 1 1/4" maybe 1 1/8". It really does work. It kind of" freshens "the barrel allowing the patch to grab the rifling a bit better. One more question for you guys (Daryl/ Taylor) up north. You are always referencing temperatures and snow , would you say global warming has not hit you? Are you getting the same amount of snow and cold temps you have gotten over the last couple of years (5-10) ? I have always wanted to retire up north , I like the snow and cold. Good shooting Daryl. StevenV
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Tks Steven. Our winters (Central B.C.) are definitely warmer than they were 30 years ago, however in other parts of the country, it's colder than it was 30 years ago.
It all depends on where Up North happens to be.
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Steven: if we were to judge climate change by this year alone, we'd have to say we ARE being affected seriously. Normally at this time of year, we'd be in -20 to -30 C. and at least 4 feet of snow. Yet we're dealing with temperatures above freezing today, a little sun , and only about 18" of snow in our BP field. So as a result we are able to shoot this year, when in others we would not. Our warm weather is a result of pressure systems off the west coast sending moist warm air across the province. The ski hills on the coast and in the Lower Mainland have close to four meters of snow as a base. We don't get winters now like we used to in the 80's and 90's.
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Right now we have a artic vortex split, you have the warm air and the people south of you have the cold air.
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Taylor that is still fine shooting with a smoothbore and your brother is doing some fine shooting too.
I did the temperature conversion to Fahrenheit and our temps are very close. Our winter has been colder than most and drier than most.
Right now it is -11.1 Celsius here. Will get up to 5.5 this afternoon. If it isn't windy I may go out again. Ln the afternoon the angle of the sun has me grouping to the right not easy to hold off on that target.
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Very impressive shooting so far, guys! I'm especially impressed with the smoothbore targets. Btw, I've printed the targets (printer issues*), but am hoping to find a reasonably warm day to shoot mine (and embarrass myself!) before the end of the month.
*We have a brand new wireless printer that has trouble with the wireless function even though the router is less than 5 feet from it: Lots of time on the telephone with the manufacturer, but no lasting solution. I'm thinking a .600" RB from my smoothie may be needed as it may not worsen matters (LOL). Btw, using a USB cable between my computer and the printer doesn't help at all.
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Looks like I'll be able to go tomorrow. I've printed targets for every match and between weather, guests, holidays and everything else have yet to send a ball. Should be about 45 f.
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It finally worked out and I was able to shoot two targets this afternoon! The temperature was in the mid 40s f with a pretty good breeze but it was from directly behind so it was a minimal factor. All in all a good day for shooting.
I printed up red circles to cover the 10 ring and serve as an aiming point which worked out well.
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The x box was elusive.
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I think the scoring is correct but change them if not.
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Glad you got some shooting in, Mike. Lots of time left to improve your scores.
I thought an aiming bud would be necessary for me and made up some 1" squares, however
with a black and white printer, I can see the diamond aiming spot just fine. It is a little bit small,
but I've found the smallest target spot you can "still" make out, will give you the tightest group.
I believe it is in part, a psychological thing with bullseyes that are too large. In psychological
aspect of it is similar to when shooting at a large target instinctively with a bow. When you have
as large aiming spot, your group will also be large.
Aim small, miss small comes to mind.
With this in mind, I am thinking a 4" or almost 4" circle is way too large for 25 yard shooting. Just
as suggestion, so please take it for what it cost.
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After much contemplation, in fairness to all, I'm going to come down on the side of members only.
This is and has been a friendly, member sponsored match. Hopefully your kids and friends will still shoot along with you just for the fun of it .
Well, yeah that's what they do anyway. I guess I'll pass on it then.
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Well this is my first entry into a postal match. Thanks for letting me enter.
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Good shooting, jcallavini.
Welcome to the forum.
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Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in awhile. After a week of wind and rain yesterday was a nice day with no wind so I went to the range and shot a few targets offhand. here are two that I am willing to post. #1 looks to me like a 50 3X or 4X I will let the judge decide. #2. I call a 50 2X. I quit using the bigger bores as they are all sighted for 50 or 100 yards. Squirrel distance use a a squirrel gun. This is from my Don Bruton made Mathew Gillespie rifle. Probably won't be able to repeat this again no matter how hard I tried. Our range faces south which is the one direction you don't want it to face as the sun puts glare on the rifle obstructing the sights. I just showed up at 8:30AM and had shade on my sights. Made a big difference. I printed 1 target in color and one in black and white. I thought I could see the black and white one better but I guess not.
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WOW Mike - pretty nice. Sure looks like 4X's to me.
Taylor and I shot our 20 bore smoothies today.
Took me 2 targets to find the centre. Yeah - a very lucky 4 in the middle.
Data on the targets.
Left one could be a 50 3X - maybe.
It's supposed to be above freezing until Wed. so might get out again.
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My second smoothbore target: same firearm - Chambers' Pennsylvania fowler, but different load - ie: 20 gauge, shooting .595" pure lead ball, .020" denim cotton patch lubed with machine cutting oil/water 1:10 ratio, and 86 gr. Goex FFg (Goex 3Fg for prime)...Rich Pierce river rock flint...25 yds offhand as before.
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Upon examining this target again, on the computer screen, I concede to a score of 50 2X with Bob having final word naturally.
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I got out today and gave it a shot. I just changed out my sights to try something new. Took off my wider front blade and buckhorn rear and put on a narrow front, and typical Pennsylvania rear sight. This is with my flintlock 45 rifle. 35 grains of Goex fffg, .440 ball, .018 ticking lubed with 10-1 water/ballistol. After getting the sights adjusted I only had time for one target. There's 7 shots on it, and I think the best 5 are 50 2x. I might get out again, but we have a cold front moving in soon. Supposed to be -22 next week.
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Great shooting , Justin. Looks like a 50 2X to me as well.
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Daryl and I got out to the range again today, he with his 20 bore smoothie and I with my 20 bore rifle. Mike has raised the bar, so I had to try to at least tie him. So I did. After my first five shots, I had no centre aiming point, so I elected to use a second target, so between the two, I accumulated 4 X's for a 50 4X score.
I had trigger/lock issues following this target, so elected to bring her back to the bench for some adjusting...my triggers (homemade) wouldn't fire the lock (Roller), and when I took them out of the stock, I found that the mainspring machine screw had backed out a half turn and the spring didn't have enough jam to trip the sear...it does now.
So here are the two targets for this submission...
(https://i.ibb.co/7g592YH/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Rhm5zv1)
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This time around I have no submissions, but might in a day or so. :D
That first target of Taylor's was amazing- 5 shots on it. The 2 on the left of the bull, were
#4 and #5. The other 3 were all in the centre of the dot (2 in the centre, one centred in the right side diamond's point.
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Daryl and I got out to the range again today, he with his 20 bore smoothie and I with my 20 bore rifle. Mike has raised the bar, so I had to try to at least tie him. So I did. After my first five shots, I had no centre aiming point, so I elected to use a second target, so between the two, I accumulated 4 X's for a 50 4X score.
I had trigger/lock issues following this target, so elected to bring her back to the bench for some adjusting...my triggers (homemade) wouldn't fire the lock (Roller), and when I took them out of the stock, I found that the mainspring machine screw had backed out a half turn and the spring didn't have enough jam to trip the sear...it does now.
So here are the two targets for this submission...
That is awesome shooting ! As solid a 50 4X as I have ever seen .
(https://i.ibb.co/7g592YH/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Rhm5zv1)
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Glad you got some shooting in, Mike. Lots of time left to improve your scores.
I thought an aiming bud would be necessary for me and made up some 1" squares, however
with a black and white printer, I can see the diamond aiming spot just fine. It is a little bit small,
but I've found the smallest target spot you can "still" make out, will give you the tightest group.
I believe it is in part, a psychological thing with bullseyes that are too large. In psychological
aspect of it is similar to when shooting at a large target instinctively with a bow. When you have
as large aiming spot, your group will also be large.
Aim small, miss small comes to mind.
With this in mind, I am thinking a 4" or almost 4" circle is way too large for 25 yard shooting. Just
as suggestion, so please take it for what it cost.
Good tips and appreciated.
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Taylor has been on fire with both rifle and smooth bore.
I went out yesterday and shot three targets with my smoothbore. I matched my first submission on two targets unfortunately the one I shot 2Xs on only scored a 49. So I will have to go back and try again.
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Well, I got out one more time for the month before the Arctic front comes in a few days. I wasn't shooting that well today, but we all have our days. Looks like 50 2x is the best for me this month. This is with my .45 flintlock.
(https://i.ibb.co/LgGzBq8/20210120-143622.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VCKWbht)
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That is some very good shooting , Justin. 50 2X is nothing to sneeze at. There's still over a week left, so , perhaps the weather will warm up. :)
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Thanks Bob. Nothing warmer than -5 in the next 2 week forecast.
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Justin: looks like a nice place to shoot.
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Minus 5 looks pretty nice from where we are right now :) Minus 5 and some sun would see a lot of folks getting their maple syrup stuff ready !
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Justin: looks like a nice place to shoot.
Yeah, it's a pretty nice range. We have out to 450 yards to shoot, with steel swingers at 200, 300, 400. And it's only 6 minutes from the house. Also an indoor pistol and archery range.
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50 with 1X.
Beautiful day here in Ky. 50 and sunny
This was my second target of the month
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There is still today, Saturday , and Sunday to submit an entry :) As the host, I'm not eligible , however will still be out shooting . Minus 20 deg here today , so I'll be using a couple of loading blocks instead of loose patches and balls to try to keep my fingers warm .
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Bob, I can't do the cold anymore. Even at 0 C, my fingers get so cold I cannot feel anymore, so -20 C is definitely out for me. I admire your tenacity.
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LOL - back in the day, we even tried to shoot at -40. That was hard on main springs.
Then, we made -20 the lower limit - talking foreign (fahrenheit) heat here. As time went on
the lower limit got warmer and warmer, then it sat at -5C for a few years. That's 23F.
Now, it's around 0 (32F) to +4 - lol.
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Using the loading blocks with my rifle, and of course, paper cartridges in my smoothbore, I can shoot pretty well without having to remove my mittens
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That would work. When hunting "up North" in the special weapons moose hunt, I wore snowmobile mittens with long cuffs.
I was still able to load my paper ctgs. in the .69 rifle without problem. Temps from freezing (no gloves needed) to -56F - mitten weather.
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This looks like it'll be my final posting for this month's frolic...my third smoothbore target. I actually shot this target some time ago, but can't remember the date, though it was in January as is evidenced by the target. I score it 50 2X though Bob's decision is final naturally. My method is patched round ball just like I load my rifles.
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Well, I think I'm safe in assuming that entries are done for this month.
It has been a really satisfying match from my perspective, with 9 submitting rifle targets and 3 submitting smoothbore targets. :)
The scores were superb; congratulations to all. Off hand shooting "just for fun" , and still some great scores.
It took a while to go through all the targets, enlarging them for as close scrutiny as I could give.
The final results were going to be problematic with 5 shooters tied with 50 3X , until Taylor managed a solid 50 4 X Congratulations Taylor :)
Smoothbore shooters did almost as well with 50's all around. Daryl took the top prize with a 50 3 X
Congratulations Daryl
The offer of separate prizes for rifle and smoothbore shooters was something I really wanted to do, just to promote the use of the smoothbores that I have really come to appreciate. [ my go to hunting gun ] Hopefully more will try these matches in the future with their smoothy.
I guess that Taylor [ rifle] and high score regardless , gets to choose the Feb target .
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Thanks for putting the January shoot on, Bob.
I'd also like to thank everyone who participated, along with a couple new shooters this month and hopefully to continue this "trend" into the coming year.
We've tried postal matches prior to this at ALR, but this one is the longest running. Lets try to keep the pace up. I need to cast some more balls.
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Doesn't matter a hoot to me but did I not post a 50 4X also? Just asking? Can't wait for the new target to be posted. Looks like winter is over here in the Willamette Valley of Oregon.
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Hi Mike. I believe you mentioned that your one target was a 4X or possibly a 3 X when you submitted it. . When I used my clear plastic ball centre scoring aid on the much enlarged target , it was clear that shot # 3 was not 1/2 in the X. Almost, but definitely not in. Your target would have won over all the other 50 3X submissions simply because it was the closest to a 4X in the match.....until Taylor shot that solid 50 4X
I should have given you an honourable mention and I apologize for not doing so. I do appreciate you taking part, and hope you'll do so again
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Congratulations to Taylor and Daryl for some fine shooting and a thank you to Bob for a very tough target!
Tony
On to February!