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General discussion => Contemporary Accoutrements => Topic started by: rich pierce on April 23, 2021, 02:10:55 AM

Title: Finished New England horn
Post by: rich pierce on April 23, 2021, 02:10:55 AM
This one has features of an original horn in my collection and a paneled to round, scalloped transition original I didn’t get at an auction. Both horns are considered to be of New England origin.  This one probably holds just short of a pound of powder. 15” along the curve and 3” wide at the butt plug.


(https://i.ibb.co/1M1pF8M/6-F1402-B4-1573-42-D4-88-F6-F525-A7-EAA06-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HC6M5nC)

(https://i.ibb.co/86QYhxG/48-FF6-AA4-5-CD6-4-C24-A344-0-D99-E16-DCC74.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RzJj56t)

(https://i.ibb.co/ChWvSvq/5-F5-F2944-3515-4372-82-C5-8-E9757-E3391-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Pwt4V4R)

(https://i.ibb.co/pLpYdBZ/2588-FF8-B-2-B1-B-4638-BA7-F-2-AAE6-B74-A812.jpg) (https://ibb.co/87V19L2)

(https://i.ibb.co/0Qt3hgd/5-A436-E54-1917-441-B-A631-2-B8-F0448-FC9-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rvsJ4C1)

(https://i.ibb.co/wBzvKfY/DCCCFCF2-B623-4-B14-A081-E7-C3-C6-B76863.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gmRnDx6)

The “story” on the faces in the letters is that this soldier started out marching happily on two legs. By the end of the war, one leg and a more stern outlook.
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: Eseabee1 on April 23, 2021, 03:41:50 AM
That is a very nice looking horn. 
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: Nordnecker on April 23, 2021, 02:11:01 PM
I like it. Many years from now, someone will wonder about the expressions on those faces.
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: Dwshotwell on April 23, 2021, 02:24:47 PM
Very cool. Was the scrimshaw (initials with faces, arrows, etc.) inspired by the originals as well as the shape / style?
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: Tim Crosby on April 23, 2021, 03:04:07 PM
 Nice job Rich, I like how the panels go into the scallops. The carving reminds me of the faces on playing cards.

  Tim
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: rich pierce on April 23, 2021, 03:44:53 PM
Very cool. Was the scrimshaw (initials with faces, arrows, etc.) inspired by the originals as well as the shape / style?

I confess that I do a lot of work in the moment. I just get after it like some guy in the field who thinks it’s time to put his initials on his horn.

Some horns were fully scrimmed, by plan, often by a professional. Others seem more willy nilly, scrimmed all over but without a design plan or professional execution. Some have initials on them and not much else. These are purported to be horns used by militia. One person from a mess or under one sergeant would take all horns to be re-filled. The initials removed confusion and prevented someone taking a better looking horn as their own when horns were returned. These were done by the owner, in a less professional manner.  This “fella” likely saw some professionally decorated horns and thought to do a little more than the simplest initials. But, done at an idle time, in the lap, with a pocketknife. Facial expressions likely added later. This will be one of my personal horns and so may get later additions.
This horn is based on this original and another.

(https://i.ibb.co/5BTJ7jV/EF7-D6-EDE-F455-448-D-B0-C2-2557072-FD041.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0hqzw93)

(https://i.ibb.co/wy5Dnbs/308-D44-C3-5453-40-E4-8774-B89-A6402155-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kKNYLr1)
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: Ken G on April 23, 2021, 03:57:24 PM
Nice horn.  I like the scalloped transition.  Looks great.

Ken
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: rich pierce on April 23, 2021, 05:57:41 PM
I think Paul Bigham hinted to me that it could use some aging. Might stick it in a pot of murky water. What say ye?
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: Tim Crosby on April 23, 2021, 06:16:12 PM
 Maybe a bath in some strong instant coffee. TC
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: rich pierce on April 23, 2021, 07:03:31 PM
Maybe a bath in some strong instant coffee. TC
Might give that a try. In the past it’s been onion skins, tea, or Osage orange shavings.
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: David G on April 23, 2021, 07:28:51 PM
Rich...you’ve made yourself a very nice personal horn. It’s got the cool factor ! If you age it any please give us a updated pic. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: oldtravler61 on April 23, 2021, 08:48:42 PM
  Rich I got to ask. Is the horn two pieces..?  Yeah my 👀 need work but it looks like it to me.
 Nice work all the same. 
Oldtravler
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: rich pierce on April 23, 2021, 08:58:49 PM
One piece! Following Tim Crosby’s advice I boiled it to soften then cut in the scallops. I tried s gouge but my trusty v chisel was the ticket. Took several heatings to get it done.
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: Dwshotwell on April 23, 2021, 10:37:44 PM

I confess that I do a lot of work in the moment. I just get after it like some guy in the field who thinks it’s time to put his initials on his horn.


Got a figure that's how it went down originally... bunch of soldiers sitting around the campfire with their knives and time on their hands. Rather than imitate what they created in a literal sense, recreate the spirit in which they did it. Pretty cool.
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: rich pierce on April 23, 2021, 11:33:09 PM
Rich...you’ve made yourself a very nice personal horn. It’s got the cool factor ! If you age it any please give us a updated pic. Thanks for sharing.

It came out a little uneven but the color is right compared with originals I own. Guess I should have fresh scraped the whole thing first. It’ll do for grungy.
(https://i.ibb.co/RB2VVKh/0013841-B-0279-4-C73-A0-DA-F743-AC7-CBC27.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KL633gN)

(https://i.ibb.co/RTkQndt/3-A712939-382-A-48-BD-B750-92176-CB09-B48.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3m9SXQV)

(https://i.ibb.co/tzKQ55z/BE17-A60-D-6-B0-C-4068-9-DEC-BC86816407-C4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2ShWBBS)

(https://i.ibb.co/FH9yN46/325-FA911-D58-B-4-FC3-A018-9-C463-E995684.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wcTP3hy)
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: Tim Crosby on April 24, 2021, 12:35:22 AM
 Looks right. What did you end up using on it?

   Tim
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: rich pierce on April 24, 2021, 12:43:54 AM
Looks right. What did you end up using on it?

   Tim
Tea, onion skins, and Osage wood shavings.
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: Clint on April 24, 2021, 04:03:39 AM
When I saw your initials I imediately thought of "Barret's Privateers" by Stan Rogers
It's on utube
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: smylee grouch on April 24, 2021, 04:49:18 AM
I like the Grungy better.  ;D :)
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: flatsguide on April 24, 2021, 05:24:25 AM
That is pretty nice. I like the panel work.
Richard
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: Nordnecker on April 24, 2021, 02:59:39 PM
Oh yeah.
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: vanu on April 24, 2021, 04:49:31 PM
Very nice Rich!
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: David G on April 24, 2021, 07:05:57 PM
Rich...you’ve made yourself a very nice personal horn. It’s got the cool factor ! If you age it any please give us a updated pic. Thanks for sharing.

It came out a little uneven but the color is right compared with originals I own. Guess I should have fresh scraped the whole thing first. It’ll do for grungy.
(https://i.ibb.co/RB2VVKh/0013841-B-0279-4-C73-A0-DA-F743-AC7-CBC27.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KL633gN)
Pretty dang close on color...well done.
(https://i.ibb.co/RTkQndt/3-A712939-382-A-48-BD-B750-92176-CB09-B48.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3m9SXQV)

(https://i.ibb.co/tzKQ55z/BE17-A60-D-6-B0-C-4068-9-DEC-BC86816407-C4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2ShWBBS)

(https://i.ibb.co/FH9yN46/325-FA911-D58-B-4-FC3-A018-9-C463-E995684.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wcTP3hy)
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: Greg Pennell on April 26, 2021, 02:05:03 AM
Rich, you really nailed the color on this one!  Nice job!

Greg
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: aaronc on May 13, 2021, 07:37:43 PM
Great horn...you hit a home run on the color.
Title: Re: Finished New England horn
Post by: hawkeye on May 13, 2021, 08:30:19 PM
Nice horns, like it