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General discussion => Contemporary Accoutrements => Topic started by: aaronc on May 11, 2021, 12:01:38 AM
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A Scrimshawed map horn....horn is out of Bill Smith's shop.
(https://i.ibb.co/fr4Tcz3/20210510-132726resize45.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ssyXBdT)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZzH0WC1/20210510-134530resize-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8gzH6V4)
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(https://i.ibb.co/ZMbXK4M/20210510-133707resize45.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2kphPVk)
(https://i.ibb.co/FsLH27w/20210510-133923resize45.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WD4VZKy)
(https://i.ibb.co/TkZSZjb/20210510-132935resize45.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KXYkY4L)
(https://i.ibb.co/gFZGTBF/20210510-133301resize45.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HpT0zkp)
(https://i.ibb.co/myPyPxD/20210510-132648resize45.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qg2g2Zy)
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Gorgeous horn, definitely a 👌👌👌👍
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Now that is clean work.
Fleener
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WOW!
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A-MA-ZING! Absolutely beautifully done!
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Superb. Well done, ole Boy.
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That is truly amazing. WOW.
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Nice scrim work! Hard to get rivers cut that cleanly, and excellent job on the map cartouche and lettering! Top notch work.
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Nice work, did Bill do it all or is the Scrimshaw your work?
Tim
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That is super nice scrimshaw!
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Give that man a prize! Beautiful work.
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Ron, I would rate that at about 90+ on the 1 - 10 scale. Fascinating and fantastic art work, a true master with a scrimshaw point.
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Appreciate all the kind words...been on this thing for around a year give or take. It should have been a 6 to 8 month project for me but when covid hit I really had to become more active helping the kid with school work so it delayed it a little. Best Regards, - Aaron
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Nice work, did Bill do it all or is the Scrimshaw your work?
Tim
Tim,..I work with Bill at times on horns...but the scrimshaw is all me. I've known Bill for around 10 years and he had already quit scrimshawing years before that. The horns come to my house for their ink.
#@!! $#@*! How do you guys do that?!?
Not sure about everyone else but I do my scrimshaw at the kitchen table. It's the best light in the house..after penciled and scribed it goes down stairs in my shop for inking. I work in sessions...may be a few hours/day..may be a 10 hours/ day breaking when I want to. I pretty much have a build log of in process pics for this one...here is some earlier ones ..and also a better pic of the backside..I had a guy wanting me to send him better pics of the Licking River area and some of what was around it. -Aaron
(https://i.ibb.co/fX6PvtC/20200520-121910resize-jpg-6481b3ef4033fe07720aa668436e5495.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mRZM8tH)
(https://i.ibb.co/5k5dNwM/20200520-122615resize-jpg-141817b708deae1bb782477fef17fd58.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m0HmLgD)
(https://i.ibb.co/HxNp8M5/20200520-142535resize-jpg-e9938dd142dda1439325643c0371ee8b.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yYhBjMH)
(https://i.ibb.co/F7w1R9C/20200715-145949resize-jpg-5b1c9a7511302b4e41a9b5dadd13d3b3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cTF94PV)
(https://i.ibb.co/r43rVmZ/20200715-151204resize-jpg-505ca4df028b6eafd456fd725aa9465c.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wM7mfRK)
(https://i.ibb.co/s5SLp7N/20200805-173225resize-jpg-119de0ece4aca1876696e7be2ac773c4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z8cKWdB)
(https://i.ibb.co/7p51WG0/20210511-105812resize40.jpg) (https://ibb.co/94LrTqd)
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Wasn't sure who did it from the original post. That is the finest, as in high quality and fine as in delicate work I have ever seen. A piece of high art in the horners world. Beautiful piece.
Tim
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Wasn't sure who did it from the original post. That is the finest, as in high quality and fine as in delicate work I have ever seen. A piece of high art in the horners world. Beautiful piece.
Tim
Tim,..really appreciate that comment. I always try my best...but always much more to do. If some people like my style I'll call it a win...but I've got a lot of heroes in the 18th century art world...quite a few right here on this board. I'm going to try to make it to the CLA this year,..I'll swing by your table and say hello. -Aaron
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Some lucky person is getting a true heirloom...absolutely wonderful work!
Greg
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Wasn't sure who did it from the original post. That is the finest, as in high quality and fine as in delicate work I have ever seen. A piece of high art in the horners world. Beautiful piece.
Tim
Tim,..really appreciate that comment. I always try my best...but always much more to do. If some people like my style I'll call it a win...but I've got a lot of heroes in the 18th century art world...quite a few right here on this board. I'm going to try to make it to the CLA this year,..I'll swing by your table and say hello. -Aaron
Look forward to it.
Tim
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I agree with Capt Crosby. Flawless as far as I can tell.
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Amazing! Just amazing.
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I think Tim expressed my feelings, as well. I think the engraving is as good as I've seen.
Bob
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Thank You Aaron.... I should have known as art and scrimshaw go hand in hand. Than is beautiful work and I appreciate the pictures. I concur with Tim Crosby in that this is the finest, as in high quality and fine as in delicate work I have ever seen. A piece of high art in the horners world. Beautiful piece. Looking forward to see more of your work down the road...
Kind Regards
Frank Barker
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Just fabulous work. What a pleasure to see. Thank you for showing your work.
Cheers Richard
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Not surprised at the time it took to do that work. The detail and quality of the engraving is done to the highest standard. My hat is off to you. Beautiful work and thanks for sharing it.
John
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Hey Aaron: Nice work on your map horn! Do you use India ink? Have you tried your hand at scrimming in color? If you do use regular artist's oils or colored inks. anyway nice work! Hugh Toenjes
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That's something you could sit down in front of a fireplace with and lose track of time admiring. What an outstanding horn!
I also notice you have a Coulter Precision scribe, I own a number of his items and I love them.
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Very nice horn,scrimshaw clean and sharp.
A real eyecatcher for sure.
Thanks for sharing, hope you gonna give it a nice color to.
Hawkeye
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I agree with Capt Crosby. Flawless as far as I can tell.
Amazing! Just amazing.
I think Tim expressed my feelings, as well. I think the engraving is as good as I've seen.
Bob
Thank You Aaron.... I should have known as art and scrimshaw go hand in hand. Than is beautiful work and I appreciate the pictures. I concur with Tim Crosby in that this is the finest, as in high quality and fine as in delicate work I have ever seen. A piece of high art in the horners world. Beautiful piece. Looking forward to see more of your work down the road...
Kind Regards
Frank Barker
Just fabulous work. What a pleasure to see. Thank you for showing your work.
Cheers Richard
Thank you guys for the comments and taking time to look over my efforts.
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Not surprised at the time it took to do that work. The detail and quality of the engraving is done to the highest standard. My hat is off to you. Beautiful work and thanks for sharing it.
John
John Proud I admire your work a great deal and follow it every chance I get. Truly appreciate your response.
-Aaron
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Hey Aaron: Nice work on your map horn! Do you use India ink? Have you tried your hand at scrimming in color? If you do use regular artist's oils or colored inks. anyway nice work! Hugh Toenjes
Hugh, thanks for looking and the kind words. Yes India Ink is all I have used. I have pretty much emptied out 1 bottle with the horns I have scrimshawed. I did try color once...I used the red ink for some British soldiers. I found it a little faint and next time I would probably try the artist oils if I wanted more vibrance. For future horns I plan to use a variety of things to achieve different shading, even blacks. I like some variance on most of my projects.
-Aaron
(https://i.ibb.co/64Sqrbx/20231218-155836resize30.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2jrpWPQ)
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That's something you could sit down in front of a fireplace with and lose track of time admiring. What an outstanding horn!
I also notice you have a Coulter Precision scribe, I own a number of his items and I love them.
Thank you,..and yes I have several Coulter Precisions and mainly use just the one. I'm still using the same tip that came on it. They are great tools.
Very nice horn,scrimshaw clean and sharp.
A real eyecatcher for sure.
Thanks for sharing, hope you gonna give it a nice color to.
Hawkeye
The horn was bought as an in the white horn and came to my house for the scrimshaw. Pics posted were the finished product. Thanks for the response and looking.
-Aaron
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I'll leave you guys with a few in process pics. I knew I had a ton of time in it and took quite a few pics along the way, mainly to keep for my daughter because this was eventually leaving the house. I pencil everything in freehand and if using reference it is just drawn hand to eye. Everything just goes on in layers. Merry Christmas - Aaron C
(https://i.ibb.co/CH90qfc/20210127-135414resize40.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hmd8kS6)
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Very beautiful work- Many uncounted hours have gone into that horn!
I haven’t seen that tool you use. Does it carve the horn?
Bob
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Very beautiful work- Many uncounted hours have gone into that horn!
I haven’t seen that tool you use. Does it carve the horn?
Bob
Sort of speak yes. You need to create a channel for the ink to set in. A lot of people use homemade tools from nails or sharpened metal of whatever kind. Everybody has their preference I think. Add your ink,..wipe off the excess,...you should have ink left in the "channel/scratch" you have created. That will be your image. Here is a pic before any ink is applied. Repeat the process as necessary to get the look and shading your after. Just my .02. Others have their own way.
(https://i.ibb.co/r2tFrqc/20200520-125429resize-jpg-392dbcfa5b8ececa5f6d41b12e5c63abresize75.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7tzjmBR)
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Thanks for sharing....wow
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Do you use a particular point shape or is it just a tapered round point on the graver you use? I have read that some people prepare their horns by applying thin CA glue on the surface the kicking it off with an accelerator then a final sanding or buffing the surface with wax. All this to prevent ink sinking into natural fissures in the horn. Your sketching on the horn shows lovely artistic skill, how do you prevent smudging of the graphite while carving. Map horns look great when executed like yours but river maps are the pinnacle imo.
Thanks Richard
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Thanks for sharing....wow
Yes sir,..thank you.
Do you use a particular point shape or is it just a tapered round point on the graver you use? I have read that some people prepare their horns by applying thin CA glue on the surface the kicking it off with an accelerator then a final sanding or buffing the surface with wax. All this to prevent ink sinking into natural fissures in the horn. Your sketching on the horn shows lovely artistic skill, how do you prevent smudging of the graphite while carving. Map horns look great when executed like yours but river maps are the pinnacle imo.
Thanks Richard
Richard,
that scribe is double ended and I usually use the longer more narrow tip vs. the shorter wider tip. If you'll note the borders on the larger parts of the river, they are darker. At some point in time I used that shorter wider tip to widen and clean out that channel to accept more ink. Before I start and between inking I coat the horn with Johnsons paste wax. I've heard they were going to quit making that so if not available I'd use whatever the equivalent is. After ink is dry I buff out with fine steel wool until I see what I want. This is not a one and done process for me....I go over whatever I need to as many times as I need. After buffing I recoat with wax...go over again or start sketching again. If you want really defined lines the channel needs to be clean. I've not been able to get that with one pass...it needs to be cleaned out to get excess horn debris removed.....unless that is the look the maker is trying to achieve. I'm not sure how to prevent smudging other than to be careful.
People have their own style...mine will probably always fall a little bit on the primitive side. I swing for a mix of tones and shades. I don't like everything to look like it got hit with the same hammer if that makes sense. When I see and admire other's engraving I'm attracted to some good design....but the execution is usually delicate in nature. I feel my work in comparison is sometimes "heavy handed". That is the hill to climb for me, trying to achieve depth...usually with only shades of black and grey.
-Aaron
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Thank you Aaron. I think I understand about the value changes and the line depth and width you’re after…it sure looks like you succeeded in every sense of the word. Thank you for the technique you use.
Merry Christmas
Richard
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Thank you Aaron. I think I understand about the value changes and the line depth and width you’re after…it sure looks like you succeeded in every sense of the word. Thank you for the technique you use.
Merry Christmas
Richard
Yes sir,...same to you.
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Beautiful scrimshaw executed well, shows alot of time, skill and patience to achieve that high level of a piece. You should be very proud. Outstanding
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Beautiful scrimshaw executed well, shows alot of time, skill and patience to achieve that high level of a piece. You should be very proud. Outstanding
Glad you liked it,..thanks for looking. -Aaron