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Title: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Dan Fruth on August 28, 2021, 10:45:17 PM
I am getting a Christmas/Birthday present ready for my son...Blacksmith equipment.

(https://i.ibb.co/zbyGGyy/IMG-0515.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y8zppzz)

First I had to make a base for my vise so I could work on his.

(https://i.ibb.co/VBxwYRx/IMG-0525.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZTS2z5S)

The coil spring has got to GO!...Lets forge a kick spring.

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This harrow's spring tooth should work fine.

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Forging the hook and foot of the spring

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The kick spring clamped in position...It Works!

Next installment will be making the mounting bracket...
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Spalding on August 28, 2021, 11:19:24 PM
Looking good, Dan. Still have the one that belonged to my great grandfather.
Myself, both my sons, and my grandsons have all pinched our fingers in the handle of that thing when we were young!
Bob
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Dan Fruth on August 28, 2021, 11:40:23 PM
Ouch!!!
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: James Rogers on August 29, 2021, 12:10:06 AM
Looks super! What a nice gift!
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: flinchrocket on August 29, 2021, 12:13:26 AM
That is a pretty clean vise. I donít think that is the original coil spring , but the new one looks better anyway.
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Tim Crosby on August 29, 2021, 12:52:31 AM
 Looking good Dan. As for the pinched fingers, I've done the same thing usually in the web of my hand, I wrapped some leather around the handle at the balls and that took care of it, gloves work well too.

   Tim 
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Dan Fruth on August 29, 2021, 04:58:53 AM
Good idea Tim...I did the same thing working on this one!
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Clint on August 29, 2021, 05:00:21 AM
Dan,
A lot of these vises do not line up very well when the screw is tightened down. To remedy that you can take the pivot bolt out, tighten the  screw and line things up. The hinged jaw is most likely a little low and the wear on the pivot bolt will show it. After things are lined up and the bolt is out, run a bridge reamer through the hole and replace the bolt with a new oversized bolt. NICE spring btw. I have actually used threaded "U" bolts to attach the mounting plate and it works very well. Not quite the same as the traditional double wedge mount but it will get covered with stuff and your son won't give it a second thought.
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: R.J.Bruce on August 29, 2021, 01:34:41 PM
I can't remember the number of times that I pinched the web between my thumb and forefinger when I let that heavy steel handle slide down and give me a righteous blood blister.
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Dan Fruth on August 29, 2021, 02:31:08 PM
This is starting to sound like the Mini Pearl story of cousin Naybob.

 "Naybob could not stop picking up everything he fastened his eyes to. Once while at the smithy, he was up to his usual, picking up everything in sight, so the smithy heated up a horse shoe and set it on the bench. Sure enough Naybob had to pick it up, but he immediately dropped it a gave a hollar!!
The smithy laughingly said, Why didn't you hold onto that shoe Naybob, to which he replied...It don't take me long to look at a horseshoe!
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Spalding on August 29, 2021, 04:21:18 PM
I donít know what it is about those post vices, but every kid has to spin that handle. Kind of like those spinning counter stools at the old diners, they all take a whirl.
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Curtis on August 31, 2021, 08:49:12 AM
Dan,

Met you at the CLA show and purchased a couple of TOW worms....

I have a couple of those post vices that are in great shape, and they are the best.  Your restoration job looks excellent, great job!

Curtis
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Badenpowell on September 02, 2021, 04:01:29 PM
Dan, great project.
Clint, I need to realign the jaws of my vise. Thanks for that information.
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Dan Fruth on September 03, 2021, 03:38:03 AM
It was a nice cool morning so I fired up the forge and started the mounting bracket

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In order for the mounting foot to be in the correct position, I drew out the bar in the bend location.



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Here you see both bends complete. The stock is 1/2 x 1 1/4 hot roll steel. The bottom of the feet must be on the same plane as the bottom of the bracket, that is why the stock was drawn at the bend.


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post image (https://imgbb.com/)

The main beam of the vise is 1" thick, so I closed and adjusted the bends to snuggly accept the beam





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The bracket in its location, nice and snug on the vise beam.  Next time will be splaying the feet and drilling the holes for the lags, and milling the slot for the wedges, as well as making the wedges....Hope you folks are enjoying the process as much as I am!!
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Badenpowell on September 05, 2021, 02:28:14 AM
Dang. Sure do need a "like" button on here ...   8)
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: RobertS on September 05, 2021, 07:14:56 AM
Thanks I have one very much like it and in need of the same work. I look forward to seeing the completion of this very worthy project.
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Not English on September 07, 2021, 07:53:08 AM
Dan, you don't happen to have a long lost son in southern Wi do you? I'm curious about your anvil. I've got a large Peter Wright (165#) that looks an awful lot like yours.

Dave
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: DanL on September 07, 2021, 03:34:43 PM
Excellent post Dan!  You should add your pictures and your narration to the tutorials section.

Thanks for the look-see, DanL
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: WadePatton on September 08, 2021, 12:33:47 AM
Excellent post Dan!  You should add your pictures and your narration to the tutorials section.

Thanks for the look-see, DanL

Yes this thread should not be lost to the vacuum of old OTBF threads and should be preserved somewhere-anywhere.
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Dan Fruth on September 09, 2021, 05:22:07 AM
With the mounting bracket ready for bending the feet, several heats are required to do the bends and punch the bolt holes.

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Sorry I didn't take any pics of bending the feet


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Someone asked about my anvil. It is a 150 lb. Fisher Norris


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Straightening the post



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Marking the location for the wedge. The wedge near the vise has ears that hold the mounting bracket together. The rear wedge pushes the vise frame and bracket tightly together.



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Here is the completed vise on it's white oak base. I live near an Amish sawmill that mills for a timber frame builder, and white oak cut-offs are inexpensive.

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The complete birthday/Christmas present. I think he will like it!

Thanks for watching the process come together...Dan


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Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: DanL on September 09, 2021, 03:36:08 PM
EXCELLENT illustration and FINE craftsmanship!

Your son should be a very happy camper.

My main anvil is similar to yours. It is a 160 lb Fisher. It was a WWI military surplus item.

Thanks for posting your work!

DanL
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Dan Fruth on September 09, 2021, 04:20:58 PM
Thanks DanL. I love my Fisher...Great rebound and no RINGINGGGGGG!  That will kill your eardrums!
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Jtown on September 14, 2021, 11:48:12 AM
Wonderful post. I am jealous of your shop. Very nice.
         Walt


Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Dan Fruth on September 16, 2021, 03:09:29 PM
The birthday boy having a go with the new/old equipment!

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Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: DanL on September 16, 2021, 03:18:49 PM
Fantastic!!  Great gift. Now he can make anything else that he wants. The gift that keeps on giving!

DanL
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Ken G on September 16, 2021, 10:23:33 PM
Very nice job restoring the vise!  He should be very happy.

Ken 
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: WadePatton on September 18, 2021, 04:03:41 PM
White Oak and other various hardwood 7x9" cut offs are about five bucks a truckload here because the mills are sawing out railroad ties. I've collected some up to 30" long.  They're sold for firewood, but I've found the blocks handy for lots of other uses too.

If this thread stays in OTBF it will be lost forever when it falls to the end, not archived/searchable like all the other forum sections. Let's don't let that happen.  I learned about post vises here-never quite understood them before.
Title: Re: Restoring a post vise
Post by: Curtis on September 19, 2021, 08:36:36 AM
Very well done Dan.  I have a couple of these and you did an excellent job on the restoration.  It was also great to meet you face to face at the CLA show - I was shocked and surprised to hear about your recently previous heart attack. 

P.S. I am enjoying the Tow worms you made.

Curtis.