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General discussion => Antique Accoutrements => Topic started by: Shreckmeister on September 02, 2021, 11:24:42 PM

Title: 1831 dated horn and pouch with Liberty, fish, horse, scroll and vine, geometrics
Post by: Shreckmeister on September 02, 2021, 11:24:42 PM
1831 was the year of Nat Turner's rebellion.  I wonder if the "Liberty" might have been in reference to that.  Owner's initials
of J * SH happen to be my 4th Great Grandfather's initials.


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Title: Re: 1831 dated horn and pouch with Liberty, fish, horse, scroll and vine, geometrics
Post by: rich pierce on September 02, 2021, 11:38:12 PM
Great kit!
Title: Re: 1831 dated horn and pouch with Liberty, fish, horse, scroll and vine, geometrics
Post by: JTR on September 03, 2021, 06:56:02 AM
That's Nice!
Title: Re: 1831 dated horn and pouch with Liberty, fish, horse, scroll and vine, geometrics
Post by: mr. no gold on September 03, 2021, 08:10:07 AM
Fine outfit!!! Thank you for showing it here for out appreciation.
Dick
Title: Re: 1831 dated horn and pouch with Liberty, fish, horse, scroll and vine, geometrics
Post by: Tim Crosby on September 03, 2021, 07:12:05 PM
 Rob, you find some of the neatest pieces.

   Tim
Title: Re: 1831 dated horn and pouch with Liberty, fish, horse, scroll and vine, geometrics
Post by: RAT on September 03, 2021, 10:52:10 PM
I'm actually more interested in the pouch than the horn. Can we get more detail photos of the pouch? Is there a gusset? Is it a full gusset, or does it stop part way up each side? What are the dimensions? Any internal features like pockets? What does the back look like?
Title: Re: 1831 dated horn and pouch with Liberty, fish, horse, scroll and vine, geometrics
Post by: Shreckmeister on September 04, 2021, 01:59:55 AM
I’ll get some detail posted Monday. Yes there is an internal pocket.  It’s a rather large bag.  Thanks
Title: Re: 1831 dated horn and pouch with Liberty, fish, horse, scroll and vine, geometrics
Post by: heinz on September 06, 2021, 04:23:29 PM
Very nice!  Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: 1831 dated horn and pouch with Liberty, fish, horse, scroll and vine, geometrics
Post by: Chris_B on September 06, 2021, 08:25:53 PM
Love that! Thank you for sharing
Title: Re: 1831 dated horn and pouch with Liberty, fish, horse, scroll and vine, geometrics
Post by: Shreckmeister on September 08, 2021, 02:43:33 PM
I'm actually more interested in the pouch than the horn. Can we get more detail photos of the pouch? Is there a gusset? Is it a full gusset, or does it stop part way up each side? What are the dimensions? Any internal features like pockets? What does the back look like?


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(https://i.ibb.co/5Kr2jLd/947-B1-E11-CDE0-485-D-965-A-BBFBA84-EFAA0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PDctWgR)

(https://i.ibb.co/QHP9yhy/BBA280-DA-6-BF1-470-C-859-F-3-FDFE93-D46-A2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/09CqH1H)

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Title: Re: 1831 dated horn and pouch with Liberty, fish, horse, scroll and vine, geometrics
Post by: RAT on September 09, 2021, 05:23:22 AM
It looks like the pouch might date later than the horn. It looks like machine stitching and brass harness rivets were used.
Title: Re: 1831 dated horn and pouch with Liberty, fish, horse, scroll and vine, geometrics
Post by: Hornbuilder on September 11, 2021, 01:37:27 PM
Thats a very unique way of attaching the horn spout to the strap of the pouch . Awesome horn as well !