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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: curly on September 21, 2021, 08:40:55 PM

Title: spur elimination
Post by: curly on September 21, 2021, 08:40:55 PM
Does anyone of you guys use a rotary tumbler to eliminate the ball spur from your balls? I just got one from Harbor freight to make black powder charcoal, and thought I'd be a good idea.
   Curly
Title: Re: spur elimination
Post by: EC121 on September 21, 2021, 08:57:45 PM
The molds I use don't leave a spur, but they do leave a sprue.  I don't bother with it.  By the time  you load it, it is knocked down.  Since you have the tumbler anyway, you might as well use it.
Title: Re: spur elimination
Post by: 577SXS on September 21, 2021, 09:07:12 PM
I did it and it does round the sprue off but not sure it's worth the trouble. My tumbler has a hex drum and I think it is too aggressive. My balls came out dented and almost looked like golf balls. I think a smooth round tumbler barrel might work better.
Title: Re: spur elimination
Post by: smylee grouch on September 21, 2021, 10:39:34 PM
If you buy a Jeff Tanner mold and cut the sprue off with the right sized wire cutter you will end up with an almost sprue less ball. You grab the sprue with the #12 I think at the base of the ball and twist the ball and it cuts the thing off slick.
Title: Re: spur elimination
Post by: WadePatton on September 21, 2021, 10:43:28 PM
I did it and it does round the sprue off but not sure it's worth the trouble. My tumbler has a hex drum and I think it is too aggressive. My balls came out dented and almost looked like golf balls. I think a smooth round tumbler barrel might work better.
 
might just be the ticket for bare-ball loadings in smoothies  ;) :o
Title: Re: spur elimination
Post by: rick/pa on September 21, 2021, 10:46:18 PM
Most of my molds are Lees which leave no sprue on the ball. Been using them since the 70's with no problems.
Title: Re: spur elimination
Post by: Clark Badgett on September 22, 2021, 12:08:06 AM
I tumble my balls. It was a known thing back then.
Title: Re: spur elimination
Post by: Scota4570 on September 22, 2021, 01:22:23 AM
IF you want perfect looking balls tumble them.  I add polished steel shot and graphite.  My tumbler is a RCBS sidewinder.  The product is perfect looking shiny black lead balls.  I makes no difference in shooting but they seem to last longer before they oxidize. 
Title: Re: spur elimination
Post by: 45-110 on September 22, 2021, 02:03:56 AM
I remember well that many tumbled/rolled their cast balls in a coffee can back in the '70's.  The smooth dimple effect shoots well, not a much different  look than you get from a ball bag after awhile.
kw
Title: Re: spur elimination
Post by: Daryl on September 22, 2021, 03:41:16 AM
The sprue on the ball doesn't bother me. With a Tanner mould, I pinch with wire strippers, then  twist the ball and the ball ends up sprue-less.

(https://i.ibb.co/tcSGn83/wire-strippers.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3Ww3VBk)
Title: Re: spur elimination
Post by: elkhart on September 23, 2021, 10:36:28 PM
I did it and it does round the sprue off but not sure it's worth the trouble. My tumbler has a hex drum and I think it is too aggressive. My balls came out dented and almost looked like golf balls. I think a smooth round tumbler barrel might work better.
 
might just be the ticket for bare-ball loadings in smoothies  ;) :o

Was thinking the same thing!
Title: Re: spur elimination
Post by: Standing Bear on September 23, 2021, 11:05:36 PM
I am moving toward using only iron molds. Yes they leave a sprue but I think the weights are more consistent once the mold and the lead are properly heated.

Re the sprue, I just load with it pointed with the bore.

Re oxidation, store in a plastic jar that seals well.
Title: Re: spur elimination
Post by: Daryl on September 24, 2021, 11:59:24 PM
Lee moulds also have a sprue. That it is merely a flat spot on the top of the ball & not a projection as with Lyman and other moulds, does not
negate that it has a visual proof of the mould cutt-off - even though it is in the form of a flat spot. A measurement taken from that flat spot to the
bottom of the ball, will be undersized to the mould's designation. Even Lee moulds do not cast round or to the size they say. The odd one does
and I have had some that cast exactly the same from both cavities.  Taylor's .600" Lee mould casts .608".
The only balls I have witnessed as being sprue-less, are those cast from Tanner moulds with the use of the wire strippers, to cut and
twist off the sprue, then if needed, a file is used to remove the tiny 'tit' that remains some times - it is merely tapped down with the wire stripper.
These measured the same, all the way around.