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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: WaterFowl on December 24, 2021, 02:11:58 AM
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Note ........1 more month of hunting seasons
2 58 cal. 1 factory loaner 1 custom.
1 10 ga. smooth bore
1 32 cal. rifle...
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None
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Zip. I've read enough stories of accidents to not do that.
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One. A 45 flintlock. Deer season ended 4 days ago. Figure I will discharge the load at a coyote soon, then, clean and store her.
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None.
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None now but during hunting season some times two.
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None! I didn't participate in hunting season this year.
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Note..no grand kids and wife is trained.....adult children at holidays only. Their trained too!
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Two
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If it's loaded, do your family a favor and flag it. You never know when you may be unexpectedly called to the big hunting woods in the sky.
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Per the fish and game regulations here a muzzleloader is considered loaded when there is a cap on the nipple of a caplock or powder in the pan of a flintlock.
Therefore, there are no loaded muzzleloaders in my house right now. 😉
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One, and one double rifle freshly unloaded this morning for a cleaning.
Fleener
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No loaded front-stuffers in the house. But everyone in my house will tell you that all the guns are loaded... Until inspection proves otherwise.
I like Semisane's flag. I've done the same with a lot of my firearms.
Mike
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Every single one of mine is loaded, but it's not "in the house" at this point in time.
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None. No reason to do so & I could forget.
Roger B.
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None are you kidding me! ::) Dumbest thing I've ever heard...
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None at my house either. However, plenty of other more practical weapons always loaded and at hand.
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None. No reason to do so & I could forget.
Roger B.
I can imagine that would.it would be foreign to one who may not hunt or lives in the city or even in a subdivision.
When one lives in an area where he or she can step out their door onto their own land to take game its nonsensical and foolish to pull a load between an evening hunt yesterday and a morning hunt today (as long as condensation is accounted for)
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For me in the cold I dont bring my loaded guns into the house, they stay in the garage, in the truck or on the porch of the cabin so that I dont have to deal with condensation.
Fleener
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Per the fish and game regulations here a muzzleloader is considered loaded when there is a cap on the nipple of a caplock or powder in the pan of a flintlock.
Therefore, there are no loaded muzzleloaders in my house right now. 😉
Oh yeah, mine has a dry pan and a blocked touchhole, yet I consider it "loaded" for the ball and charge in the breech. So it, like most things, depends upon some definitions. Also, I'm the only inhabitant of my zones, me and two pups.
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None.
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EVERY ONE untiI check it and ensure it is NOT loaded, you can not pass a weapon to anyone in my family Until you prove it is not loaded ,then who ever it was passed to rechecks it ,muzzle safety then and only then is it OK to go on,
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One. My .54 deer rifle. Empty pan, toothpick in touchhole, hammer down with flint slightly cutting into hammerstall, all covered with a cow's knee tightly laced.
There is also a rolled sheet of paper partly inserted in barrel stating "This gun is loaded. Danger"
It will stay this way until I take a deer then the process is repeated. If no shot is taken the rifle will remain in this condition until the season ends.
If nothing is in season my ML's are not loaded. I have much more efficient guns for protection.
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Retired.... can and do go hunting on a whim...mine stay loaded till seasons end....weather there in the truck or house.
Used toothpicks in the past till i lost a tip in the breech powder...now a piece of leather up against the touch hole works for me.
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Thanks SMO for that tip.
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None. No reason to do so & I could forget.
Roger B.
I can imagine that would.it would be foreign to one who may not hunt or lives in the city or even in a subdivision.
When one lives in an area where he or she can step out their door onto their own land to take game its nonsensical and foolish to pull a load between an evening hunt yesterday and a morning hunt today (as long as condensation is accounted for)
Exactly.
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Zero here. I learned a crud ring lesson from keeping one loaded to long. And it seems to me like an old charge is slower?? Id like you expert’s to weigh in on that…
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None.
Ez
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None..hunting season over,
george
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None. Now the Glock and Springfield Armory.......
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None, not safe
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Zero here. I learned a crud ring lesson from keeping one loaded to long. And it seems to me like an old charge is slower?? Id like you expert’s to weigh in on that…
I'm no expert, but when I shoot my un-utilized hunting load, sometimes a few or several months later, I always use a target at average hunting shot distance, and the ball always hits it with deer-class accuracy. No crud.
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If it is deer hunting season I usually have one loaded flintlock in my truck out in the garage. I loaded my gun as well as all my hunting and deer dragging stuff the day before deer season and tore the meniscus in my knee the same day, all has been waiting for me to put it to use since November 14. Hopefully I can after my surgery next Friday and a little recovery time.
As for the modern stuff that I keep scattered around the house, it is all ready to rock and roll. As an elderly man who lives alone at the end of a dead end road out in the boonies and am taking no chances.
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Maybe humidity getting in the touch hole?
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ZERO, since I haven't actually hunted in the past few years. But when I did hunt there were always one or two loaded and waiting their turn.
But year-round there are always two or three modern wheel guns stashed in special places. No kids to worry about just my squeeze and I.
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Zero, It is illegal to do so in my area. I would never leave a fully loaded firearm laying around even if it was legal.
I do keep a couple of modern firearms in small touch button safes with a loaded magazine inserted. The chamber is not loaded. These are strictly emergency response tools.
Before I had kids of my own I did keep a loaded revolver in the night stand. A visitor's toddler child found it, we found him playing with it. It was a near tragedy.
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My .45 flint longrifle is very often loaded and hanging high on the wall (empty pan) with it's bag and horn hanging near it. It's my favorite critter getter and walking rifle so it gets used several times a week, maybe everyday. A empty gun is really no use to anyone.
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Did my last squirrel rabbit scare..so I unloaded all my riles and smooth bore..
It was interesting to read how many were still hunting...
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Never kept a muzzle loading rifle loaded but did use a percussion revolver in 1950 on a bum that tried to pull my mother out of the house.Modern guns are always loaded.
Bob Roller
I read about someone who had an incident in which they used a percussion revolver. The police, sorting things out, took custody of the gun. The officer asked, "How do I unload it?"
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None...........ever.
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None, never. Now the detective special...
Al J.
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No ones business. Especially the G.
Robby
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None, ever!
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None, ever!
Me neither!
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None. Ever.
I have other far more threat stopping firearms than a BP anything.
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All my guns are loaded, until I check them with a ramrod, which I do every time I take one out. It's an old habit I picked up decades ago
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Zero, but I handle them as if they all are...
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All I am going to say is this topic something that is to be decided by the individual and his comfort zone and situation. Me personally I keep a modern handgun within reach 90% of the time as I live alone. I see no need to have a muzzle loader or BP revolver loaded in the house ::).
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I have a 100lb pit bull laying at my feet. He's my loaded gun.
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Just a few feet outside my door I have several backstops, 25yds,35yds and 70yds. In front of these backstops hang tin cans or steel gongs. Seems a couple times a week these cans and gongs get hostile ideas so I have to step outside and put down the rebellion before it gets out of hand. It's only common sense to keep a longrifle loaded (empty pan) for just these emergencies. Then of coarse there are often whaskily wabbits, squirrels or coyotes. There are modern guns around the house but I enjoy shooting my muzzleloaders and with the cost and decline of reloading componants it's much cheaper as well.
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Just a few feet outside my door I have several backstops, 25yds,35yds and 70yds. In front of these backstops hang tin cans or steel gongs. Seems a couple times a week these cans and gongs get hostile ideas so I have to step outside and put down the rebellion before it gets out of hand. It's only common sense to keep a longrifle loaded (empty pan) for just these emergencies. Then of coarse there are often whaskily wabbits, squirrels or coyotes. There are modern guns around the house but I enjoy shooting my muzzleloaders and with the cost and decline of reloading componants it's much cheaper as well.
Call it what you will but common sense it's not.
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Never kept a muzzle loading rifle loaded but did use a percussion revolver in 1950 on a bum that tried to pull my mother out of the house.Modern guns are always loaded.
Bob Roller
I read about someone who had an incident in which they used a percussion revolver. The police, sorting things out, took custody of the gun. The officer asked, "How do I unload it?"
In this incident the cops thought it was a good idea and one of them told me be sure and clean the barrel and that one chamber.The shot I fired was intended to kill but did a good job of plowing a trench along the left side of the head and
an ear was damaged badly.I have NO social conscience and would do it again in any incident that would require that level
of force.This man was only interested in a small pretty red haired woman and found out "She ain't available".
We live about 500 yards North of what is now the CSX and we now own that home.In 1950 steam locomotives moved thru
the area pulling long freight or coal trains and would slow down and stop to take on water.Transients (bums) would get off and come into the residential areas and steal whatever was useful to them,clothes off a clothes line of food from a garden but it was my mother who was probably outside gathering or hanging clothes when this guy spotted her and thought he'd have some "fun" with her.I was 14 then and now almost 86 and feel no remorse and never will.
Bob Roller
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Never kept a muzzle loading rifle loaded but did use a percussion revolver in 1950 on a bum that tried to pull my mother out of the house.Modern guns are always loaded.
Bob Roller
I read about someone who had an incident in which they used a percussion revolver. The police, sorting things out, took custody of the gun. The officer asked, "How do I unload it?"
In this incident the cops thought it was a good idea and one of them told me be sure and clean the barrel and that one chamber.The shot I fired was intended to kill but did a good job of plowing a trench along the left side of the head and
an ear was damaged badly.I have NO social conscience and would do it again in any incident that would require that level
of force.This man was only interested in a small pretty red haired woman and found out "She ain't available".
We live about 500 yards North of what is now the CSX and we now own that home.In 1950 steam locomotives moved thru
the area pulling long freight or coal trains and would slow down and stop to take on water.Transients (bums) would get off and come into the residential areas and steal whatever was useful to them,clothes off a clothes line of food from a garden but it was my mother who was probably outside gathering or hanging clothes when this guy spotted her and thought he'd have some "fun" with her.I was 14 then and now almost 86 and feel no remorse and never will.
Bob Roller
Nor should you. Cheers!
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Here's one of the problems. Nobody can tell if a muzzleloader is loaded by just looking at it. A CF gun is easy to see is loaded and easy to unload. Experienced muzzleloader will know a muzzleloader is loaded but the unexperienced has no clue.
So, let's say you have a loaded muzzleloader in your house and you get hit by a truck and die. Of course you can die many ways. The truck is to illustrate that death can come fast and unexpected.
So, your family, friends, or whoever sells your loaded muzzleloader. Maybe to someone new to muzzleloaders. Maybe it isn't sold and a family member keeps it who is new to muzzleloaders.
Can you see what can happen? Someone could be killed because a muzzleloader was left loaded.
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I had forgot about this episode of my life until a contributor on this forum showed a young grandson with a Remington six shooter and that brought back this episode.Had my grandfather,C.M.Taylor not gone to the A&P grocery store that bum would not have been shot.Grandpa Taylor was a large,all bone and muscle man that could have easily broken the back of that man but he had taken his small wagon and went to the store.
Four years ago I came close to again using a gun on a possible pedophile.We had a pretty 10 year old girl staying with her grandparents 3 doors West of us and like her mother,she was developing physically way to fas and she anf I were talking in fron of our house and she had one of her legs propped up over the frame of the bike and it outlined her backside. A car came around the corner and stopped and the driver was staring at her when I spoke up and said, "Hey,she's only 10 so get out of the neighborhood".I don't think he saw me until I hollered at him.I asked if she knew him and her answer was no.
Bob Roller
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Here's one of the problems. Nobody can tell if a muzzleloader is loaded by just looking at it. A CF gun is easy to see is loaded and easy to unload. Experienced muzzleloader will know a muzzleloader is loaded but the unexperienced has no clue.
So, let's say you have a loaded muzzleloader in your house and you get hit by a truck and die. Of course you can die many ways. The truck is to illustrate that death can come fast and unexpected.
So, your family, friends, or whoever sells your loaded muzzleloader. Maybe to someone new to muzzleloaders. Maybe it isn't sold and a family member keeps it who is new to muzzleloaders.
Can you see what can happen? Someone could be killed because a muzzleloader was left loaded.
Years ago there WAS a tragedy involving a muzzle loader.It was a military smooth bore that used a tape primer
and the man made that bought it at an auction and tried a roll of caps in the lock to see if they could be made to
work.One of them did and the gun went off and whatever it was loaded with hit his wife.She died on the operating table.
We have a friend who has a number of muzzle loaders in his antique store and I make it my job to check with a rod
that's longer than the barrel to see what,if anything is in it.ALL guns should be considered as being loaded including those
in museums.Back in the "day" when black powder was not easily found I heard "know nothings" tell people to pry open a shotgun shell and use that powder in a muzzle loader.I wonder how many are still loaded because a percussion cap couldn't fire the smokeless from the cartridge?
The above mentioned tape primer tragedy was published in a local newspaper but was not local for us.
Bob Roller
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I did mention in a earlier post that my rifles have a leather (LOADED) tag hanging from the hammer and most family members know that I often have them loaded.
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I had forgot about this episode of my life until a contributor on this forum showed a young grandson with a Remington six shooter and that brought back this episode.Had my grandfather,C.M.Taylor not gone to the A&P grocery store that bum would not have been shot.Grandpa Taylor was a large,all bone and muscle man that could have easily broken the back of that man but he had taken his small wagon and went to the store.
Four years ago I came close to again using a gun on a possible pedophile.We had a pretty 10 year old girl staying with her grandparents 3 doors West of us and like her mother,she was developing physically way to fas and she anf I were talking in fron of our house and she had one ofher legs propped up over the frame of the bike and it outlined her backside. A car came around the corner and stopped and the driver was staring at her when I spoke up and said, "Hey,she's only 10 so get out of the neighborhood".I don't think he saw me until I hollered at him.I asked if she knew him and her answer was no.
Bob Roller
This is the consequences we face in a society where pornography is normalized and where pedophilia is seeping into art and entertainment more and more.
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My only concern about loaded muzzleloaders is that black powder attracts moisture, and I can't help but think that I will induce corrosion where the powder. If I need a gun quickly, I'm not reaching for a BP firearm, anyway. Anything I need to shoot with a muzzleloader can wait till I've loaded it. Anything needing to be shot right away will mean a centerfire arm is to be used.
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My only concern about loaded muzzleloaders is that black powder attracts moisture, and I can't help but think that I will induce corrosion where the powder. If I need a gun quickly, I'm not reaching for a BP firearm, anyway. Anything I need to shoot with a muzzleloader can wait till I've loaded it. Anything needing to be shot right away will mean a centerfire arm is to be used.
Plus, a second shot is nice to have.
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It is possible to have both. Modern firearms placed in safe areas around the house and outbuildings as well as on ones person AND a muzzleloader for general stuff.
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Frankly, I can't even believe there's a discussion about having a loaded primitive weapon in the house.
Who keeps a loaded crossbow with bolt in tact in the house "just in case"?
Nobody that I want to associate with.
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It is possible to have both. Modern firearms placed in safe areas around the house and outbuildings as well as on ones person AND a muzzleloader for general stuff.
I am never unarmed and Wva has no gun laws now beyond those pertaining to shooting them in the city limits other than established indoor ranges.NEVER mess with an old man.There is no way to predict what he may have with him.We also are NOT obligated to retreat in the event of an encounter with tweedledee the wonder dummy that thinks a geezer is an easy target.
Bob Roller
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Some of us live in places where we can walk out the door and roam the woods for hours or days. I most often like to carry one of my flint rifles and see no point in unloading it everyday since I will most likely carry it again the next day. I sure can't understand why anyone on this sight wouldn't consider a "primitive weapon" to do so, no-one I would want to associate with thats for sure.
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Some of us live in places where we can walk out the door and roam the woods for hours or days. I most often like to carry one of my flint rifles and see no point in unloading it everyday since I will most likely carry it again the next day. I sure can't understand why anyone on this sight wouldn't consider a "primitive weapon" to do so, no-one I would want to associate with thats for sure.
You carry it for a bear encounter?
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I am going to dump my load in a matter of minutes. I believe deer season is over for me this year and the rifle needs to be cleaned and put away.
Fleener
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OldMtnMan, I carry it because I don't believe in going unarmed if possible, I carry it for protection, I carry it because I often plink at targets along the way. I carry it because when grouse or rabbits are in season I sometimes bag a couple for dinner, I carry it it becouse it is a beautiful tool and I enjoy using it, I carry it because it is my god given right and my right as a U.S. citizen and I carry it becouse I @!*% well want to.
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Walks with gun, I can see where that would make sense. I'd love to live in the countryside someday where I can walk my own woods. I'd probably keep a muzzleloader ready to grab (unprimed), too. I'd want to discharge regularly, though, so as not to leave powder for weeks on end without cleaning.
As for now, I have no good reason to keep a loaded muzzleloader around the house. It would be problematic for me to just discharge it (I'd have to drive out some country road, and fire it off into the ditch while no cars were around). I've had this issue before, on the few occasions I've keep my DGW flintlock loaded over night when I hunted a few days in a row. Never having had a chance to shoot a deer, I had to pull the PRB with my rod. Then I discharged the powder in the backyard so as not to make too loud a report in the neighborhood. (I probably could have just washed the powder out with warm water).
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OldMtnMan, I carry it because I don't believe in going unarmed if possible, I carry it for protection, I carry it because I often plink at targets along the way. I carry it because when grouse or rabbits are in season I sometimes bag a couple for dinner, I carry it it becouse it is a beautiful tool and I enjoy using it, I carry it because it is my god given right and my right as a U.S. citizen and I carry it becouse I @!*% well want to.
I do it too. Even if it's just to carry it instead of hiking the Rockies without it. Kind of reminds me of being on a hunt. I'll shoot a knot in a dead tree now and then.
One time I got stopped by a warden. I'm not sure saying I just like to carry it would have worked. He was convinced I was hunting. I was thinking of what I was going to say as he walked up to me. I finally settled on saying it's the only gun I own and i'm carrying it for bear protection. It worked and i'm not so sure it wasn't close to the truth.
I'm glad he didn't notice the bear spray in my back pocket.
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OldMtnMan, I carry it because I don't believe in going unarmed if possible, I carry it for protection, I carry it because I often plink at targets along the way. I carry it because when grouse or rabbits are in season I sometimes bag a couple for dinner, I carry it it becouse it is a beautiful tool and I enjoy using it, I carry it because it is my god given right and my right as a U.S. citizen and I carry it becouse I @!*% well want to.
I do it too. Even if it's just to carry it instead of hiking the Rockies without it. Kind of reminds me of being on a hunt. I'll shoot a knot in a dead tree now and then. Couple years ago I took a hike with my .45 longrifle hoping to find a grouse or wood duck for supper. Brush was thicker than heck, climbed over some down trees and kept finding more and more black bear sign while sneaking into a pond I knew. finally found where the beave made a very long dam so decided to cross it instead of fighting my way back through this logged off mess. Couple more spots on the dam were bear dug out bee larve (ground nests) and when I finally got to the other side and somewhat less slippery solid ground I noticed somewhere along the line I had lost my flint. So much for bear protection. lol
One time I got stopped by a warden. I'm not sure saying I just like to carry it would have worked. He was convinced I was hunting. I was thinking of what I was going to say as he walked up to me. I finally settled on saying it's the only gun I own and i'm carrying it for bear protection. It worked and i'm not so sure it wasn't close to the truth.
I'm glad he didn't notice the bear spray in my back pocket.
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Well I usually I have No muzzleloaders loaded in my house.
But from the time my kids were little. They have been taught that all guns are loaded unless they have checked them themselves. I also told them to absolutey NEVER ever take another person's word for it. No matter how much experience they say they have.
They have been trained on all types of weapons systems.
Oldtravler
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I'm not going to say what I'm really thinking because that would probably get me in trouble with the ALR police, but ........perhaps someone can explain why it's OK to have a non mentionable firearm loaded in the house, [ for whatever reason] while having a muzzleloader in like condition is beyond dangerous ? Frankly, I can't see the point of the post other than to poke the bears.
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I'm not going to say what I'm really thinking because that would probably get me in trouble with the ALR police, but ........perhaps someone can explain why it's OK to have a non mentionable firearm loaded in the house, [ for whatever reason] while having a muzzleloader in like condition is beyond dangerous ? Frankly, I can't see the point of the post other than to poke the bears.
Maybe, because the average person can't tell when a muzzleloader is loaded.
Also, old technology. A flintlock can be fired with no powder in the pan.
Then there's some of us who feel no gun should be loaded in the house.
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I'm not going to say what I'm really thinking because that would probably get me in trouble with the ALR police, but ........perhaps someone can explain why it's OK to have a non mentionable firearm loaded in the house, [ for whatever reason] while having a muzzleloader in like condition is beyond dangerous ? Frankly, I can't see the point of the post other than to poke the bears.
Maybe, because the average person can't tell when a muzzleloader is loaded.
Also, old technology. A flintlock can be fired with no powder in the pan.
Then there's some of us who feel no gun should be loaded in the house.
I believe this to be the gulf between mindsets. To each his own as to how they define their "safe space ".
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A empty gun is a worthless gun. Some of us use our guns almost every day. Familuarity with them is whats needed.
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None.
I don't keep them loaded anymore. A while back, I left one loaded and it pitted the bore where the powder charge was. I think the powder absorbed moisture and and it rusted. The rest of the bore was fine. I have no real proof that it was caused by leaving it loaded, but I've never had a bore rust any other time. Too much money into these rifles for me to take the chance.
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I'm not going to say what I'm really thinking because that would probably get me in trouble with the ALR police, but ........perhaps someone can explain why it's OK to have a non mentionable firearm loaded in the house, [ for whatever reason] while having a muzzleloader in like condition is beyond dangerous ? Frankly, I can't see the point of the post other than to poke the bears.
Maybe, because the average person can't tell when a muzzleloader is loaded.
Also, old technology. A flintlock can be fired with no powder in the pan.
Then there's some of us who feel no gun should be loaded in the house.
Thats fine, but many believe, like our founders, that it is my house and my business. Don't inflict us with your societal fears.
Robby
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Robby, I don't have any societal fears. If you take a second look at what I said, I'm agreeing you.
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I'm not going to say what I'm really thinking because that would probably get me in trouble with the ALR police, but ........perhaps someone can explain why it's OK to have a non mentionable firearm loaded in the house, [ for whatever reason] while having a muzzleloader in like condition is beyond dangerous ? Frankly, I can't see the point of the post other than to poke the bears.
Maybe, because the average person can't tell when a muzzleloader is loaded.
Also, old technology. A flintlock can be fired with no powder in the pan.
Then there's some of us who feel no gun should be loaded in the house.
Thats fine, but many believe, like our founders, that it is my house and my business. Don't inflict us with your societal fears.
Robby
Just answering the question asked by the OP. I don't have much concern what others do. I may have an opinion and it's my right to express it.
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OldMtnMan, I carry it because I don't believe in going unarmed if possible, I carry it for protection, I carry it because I often plink at targets along the way. I carry it because when grouse or rabbits are in season I sometimes bag a couple for dinner, I carry it it becouse it is a beautiful tool and I enjoy using it, I carry it because it is my god given right and my right as a U.S. citizen and I carry it becouse I @!*% well want to.
Best post of this thread!....Well said!!!
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If the BATF doesn't classify muzzleloaders as firearms even if you live in a restrictive state or town having a loaded one shouldn't be classified as having a loaded firearm, right?
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If the BATF doesn't classify muzzleloaders as firearms even if you live in a restrictive state or town having a loaded one shouldn't be classified as having a loaded firearm, right?
Nice try Mike but no cigar. :)
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No BP guns loaded n the house but there are five moderns in different places that are.
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If the BATF doesn't classify muzzleloaders as firearms even if you live in a restrictive state or town having a loaded one shouldn't be classified as having a loaded firearm, right?
"One" would like to think so, but likely not. Here, there are 2 schools of thought. Provincial and Federal. The Provincial stat says a ML is not loaded simply by having powder and shot in the
barrel, but must not be capped or primed. The Federal government says powder and shot constitutes being loaded. That, is how the situation was some 10 years ago & still is with the Provincial
government, but I do not know what the current Federal 'tends" are.
Federally, anything used as a firearm, becomes a firearm. I'm quite certain this is the current "law".
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Break into our house or property when we're home and find out! bring your own body bag!
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One, and tagged as such. I hunt my property and it will stay loaded until I kill a deer or the season is over
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I guess it all kind of compairs to the use of the word "biker" there are those who make bikes a part of their very existence then there are those who put on the T-shirts and chaps who ride on the weekends. Here we have some of us that make muzzleloaders our lives and then those who go to the range once in awhile. It all works out and to each his own but I built the rifles to use, not sit in a safe. If you want to keep yours unloaded fine but some of us might just want to use ours during the week.
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I guess it all kind of compairs to the use of the word "biker" there are those who make bikes a part of their very existence then there are those who put on the T-shirts and chaps who ride on the weekends. Here we have some of us that make muzzleloaders our lives and then those who go to the range once in awhile. It all works out and to each his own but I built the rifles to use, not sit in a safe. If you want to keep yours unloaded fine but some of us might just want to use ours during the week.
That makes no sense. Someone can shoot every day and not keep it loaded in the house.
A PRB load is cheap.
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I guess it all kind of compairs to the use of the word "biker" there are those who make bikes a part of their very existence then there are those who put on the T-shirts and chaps who ride on the weekends. Here we have some of us that make muzzleloaders our lives and then those who go to the range once in awhile. It all works out and to each his own but I built the rifles to use, not sit in a safe. If you want to keep yours unloaded fine but some of us might just want to use ours during the week.
That makes no sense. Someone can shoot every day and not keep it loaded in the house.
A PRB load is cheap. I use mine for critter control, I might not take the shot, might not get a clean shot for days. I will take care of my own guns and you do what you want with yours.
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That wasn't the point I was making. You make it sound like if someone doesn't keep the gun loaded they aren't a serious muzzleloader.
I'm saying that's not true.
Stop being so sensitive. I don't care at all what you do.
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This thread has run it's course and should be pulled.
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I agree Mike and deleted my clean/dirty dishwasher analogy. ;)
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Many threads go on without everyone feeling that meaningful information is still being shared. The original poster can always delete the whole thing. I think they can also lock it but not sure. Anyone else can either report ALR rules violations to moderators or stop reading new posts on a thread. I’m not sure we want to get into closing topics that feel annoying to some members. Do we have egregious rule-breaking here?
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The original poster can always delete the whole thing. I think they can also lock it but not sure.
Yes, I've found that both of those can be done by the original poster.
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They say, don't go on Wolverton mountain.
Robby
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Were just trying to beat the title of longest running post not involving "PATCH LUBE". lol
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Glad it stayed civil........the End