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General discussion => Antique Accoutrements => Topic started by: jdm on May 22, 2022, 05:16:27 AM

Title: Relic pipe axe head
Post by: jdm on May 22, 2022, 05:16:27 AM
This head came out of an old collection years ago. I was told it was found in a stream in the north eastern U.S. I'm glad they found it Much longer and it would of been gone. Ten/fifteen years ago
Louie Parker made the display haft . He thought  it would make a nice contrast to the relic head . I have to agree  it makes a nice statement .
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(https://i.ibb.co/TBFQ3k1/IMG-1697.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3yLxZ7v)
Title: Re: Relic pipe axe head
Post by: Fullstock longrifle on May 22, 2022, 02:42:03 PM
Very cool relic, and as alway, Louie did a great job on the haft.
Title: Re: Relic pipe axe head
Post by: iloco on May 22, 2022, 03:27:59 PM
I like what Louie did.  Nice relic you have.
 Over the years I have picked up lots of Indian stone axes and Selts.  Many many arrow heads.
There were lots of Indian camps along the river where I live.  Never found any Tomahawks like you have. 
Title: Re: Relic pipe axe head
Post by: jdm on May 22, 2022, 04:17:23 PM
Thank you for your replies.  Now that I've been thinking about it. I traded Louie out of this Twenty years ago. The haft is starting to get a little age like me.  Here is a little  better picture of the haft.


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(https://i.ibb.co/9YVfdjp/IMG-1699.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YjyKVGN)


Title: Re: Relic pipe axe head
Post by: louieparker on May 22, 2022, 06:15:33 PM
JDM.......I have forgot how the trade went down...  But I feel like I might have got screwed .... LP
Title: Re: Relic pipe axe head
Post by: jdm on May 22, 2022, 10:02:56 PM

JDM.......I have forgot how the trade went down...  But I feel like I might have got screwed .... LP
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  If you did I'm sure it was the only time. .............
Title: Re: Relic pipe axe head
Post by: Brokennock on May 29, 2022, 01:57:30 PM
That's fantastic.
Title: Re: Relic pipe axe head
Post by: Rajin cajun on May 29, 2022, 05:45:09 PM

JDM.......I have forgot how the trade went down...  But I feel like I might have got screwed .... LP

If you did I'm sure it was the only time. .............
Jim, I know I read that Louie put the haft on that axe, not that he took the shaft on it..
“ Sometime you get the Bear, sometimes the bear gets you”.....!
Like you said it would be a first if Louie got snookered.
Very nice axe, and the best to you and Louie..!
Hope to see you two at the KRA.
Bob in Louisiana.
Title: Re: Relic pipe axe head
Post by: jdm on June 01, 2022, 02:44:39 AM
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JDM.......I have forgot how the trade went down...  But I feel like I might have got screwed .... LP

If you did I'm sure it was the only time. .............
[/quote]
Jim, I know I read that Louie put the haft on that axe, not that he took the shaft on it..
“ Sometime you get the Bear, sometimes the bear gets you”.....!
Like you said it would be a first if Louie got snookered.
Very nice axe, and the best to you and Louie..!
Hope to see you two at the KRA.
Bob in Louisiana.
]Bob, I think Louie might be laying low. I love these old relics.


Title: Re: Relic pipe axe head
Post by: Shreckmeister on June 01, 2022, 05:03:07 AM
What a great piece. Wouldn’t it be cool to know exactly where it was found?  Who knows what else was there. You don’t misplace a tool of that importance. Something happened there.
Title: Re: Relic pipe axe head
Post by: jdm on June 02, 2022, 06:04:55 AM
 I believe from the style  this head dates around the late 1700's but I could sure be wrong . Perhaps someone  with more knowledge on this might have a different  feeling on the subject.  I agree  Shreckmeister   It would be pretty interesting to know what happened. Ambush at a river crossing????? That's why we collect this junk.   Jim
Title: Re: Relic pipe axe head
Post by: Nordnecker on June 22, 2022, 01:53:27 PM
How was a pipe axe like this originally made? Is the pipe bowl forged along with the axe head or was it a separate piece attached later? Was the haft drilled all the way through, then pewter was poured to secure the head and block the hole?
Title: Re: Relic pipe axe head
Post by: Ken G on June 22, 2022, 03:47:26 PM
Most have the head and bowl forged together as one piece although I have seen one that the bowl screwed on.  The haft is drilled full length with a peg to seal the head end of the hole.  If pewter was poured, the head would be wedge fitted from the bottom going up, then a hole drilled through the bowl into the haft.  It would not have a wedge in the haft like a modern axe. A leather gasket would be used between the head and haft to seal the draw hole. 

Cheers,
Ken