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Title: Engraving
Post by: varsity07840 on May 27, 2022, 08:10:26 PM
Any suggestions on doctoring this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xmRgM9Z/9-B3461-AF-3800-4-B7-F-A4-B6-9-E5-FD3-E22-D6-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4s5Sjvk)
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: smoke and flames on May 27, 2022, 08:27:56 PM
It is very well done. Any other parts that are engraved?
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: varsity07840 on May 27, 2022, 08:30:59 PM
No. I'm just looking for possible fixes for the run out.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: T*O*F on May 27, 2022, 09:15:18 PM
You can inlay dead soft brass wire into the gouges and re-cut them.
I can send you a piece if you decide to go that way.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: varsity07840 on May 27, 2022, 09:21:29 PM
PM sent
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: smylee grouch on May 27, 2022, 09:36:15 PM
Heat it up, flux it, And " tin " over the border with silver solder then lightly sand over that leaving the silver in the cuts.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: smoke and flames on May 27, 2022, 10:20:24 PM
when I make a error like this there are usually two options. You can try to pen the area around the cut back into itself and then sand or burnish  If that dosent work I usually try to make it look like it belongs that  way .  Be creative. You can cut a beveled border around the whole thing and add a shadow line next to it.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: Eric Kettenburg on May 27, 2022, 10:49:03 PM
Frankly that's better than more than half old antiques.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: Bob Roller on May 27, 2022, 10:50:21 PM
Don't worry about it.There are NO golden oldies that are perfect or anywhere near it.I made a lot of locks and not one of them was perfect but all functioned as they should.I dabbled
 a bit in engraving but a badly broken wrist on the right ended the excursion into the finer arts.
Bob Roller
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: Mike Brooks on May 27, 2022, 11:26:44 PM
The run out of what?
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: P.Bigham on May 27, 2022, 11:39:55 PM
Just a bit of peening in the right direction. Agree with Eric. Nice work. They weren't perfect just looked good at a distance
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: davec2 on May 28, 2022, 12:19:18 AM
If it were me (and it often is), I would re-cut the curved border lines a little heavier and then put a second parallel line outside of that.  Both would distract from the very slight imperfection you have there.  Here is a box I did for one of my rifles that had a similar problem at the top end of the box lid.

(https://i.ibb.co/3C3MzZv/IMG-2343.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wzkwsm7)
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: smoke and flames on May 28, 2022, 01:44:12 AM
davec2  great recovery on the border.  At times we have to do what a magician does and rely on distraction to cover up what they are really doing.  Remember also that not all mistakes are bad. What you learn in covering them up forces you to learn something new. I  remember a friend once saying."I never make a mistake. I do however have lapses of better judgement."
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: varsity07840 on May 28, 2022, 04:36:16 PM
You can inlay dead soft brass wire into the gouges and re-cut them.
I can send you a piece if you decide to go that way.

I'll TAKE YOU UP ON THE BRASS WIRE OFFER

PM SENT WITH MY ADDRESS.

THANKS.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: T*O*F on May 28, 2022, 08:19:30 PM
Quote
I'll TAKE YOU UP ON THE BRASS WIRE OFFER
PM SENT WITH MY ADDRESS.
THANKS.
I'm not getting any PMs from you.  Make sure you're hitting PM and not the email link, as it just sends an anonymous, unanswerable message.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: Mike Brooks on May 29, 2022, 04:41:33 AM
Come to find out that's my engraving. Pretty typical work for me.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: LynnC on May 31, 2022, 08:16:10 AM
I still dont see the flaw.....I think it looks great. Far better than I can do.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: P.W.Berkuta on May 31, 2022, 07:23:03 PM
I'd make the left side as deep as the right side and fill it in with stippling dots.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: Daryl on May 31, 2022, 07:29:23 PM
Come to find out that's my engraving. Pretty typical work for me.

You mean like Davec2's?
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: Mike Brooks on May 31, 2022, 10:48:51 PM
Come to find out that's my engraving. Pretty typical work for me.

You mean like Davec2's?
My engraving is completely unlike Dave's. I don't use a microscope, just reading glasses and a hammer and chisel. I've always been fine with the results.
 I really enjoy all the very good engraver's work these days, it's very nice. But it can look odd on copies of 18th century guns. That's fine too if you're into that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: Daryl on May 31, 2022, 11:24:29 PM
I surely do love to see Davec2's works of art.
I certainly do understand your statement, though, Mike.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: Mike Brooks on May 31, 2022, 11:56:54 PM
I surely do love to see Davec2's works of art.
I certainly do understand your statement, though, Mike.
He does some great work!
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: varsity07840 on June 21, 2022, 11:38:58 PM
Any suggestions on doctoring this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xmRgM9Z/9-B3461-AF-3800-4-B7-F-A4-B6-9-E5-FD3-E22-D6-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4s5Sjvk)

Chuck Edwards fixed it.
(https://i.ibb.co/Cvgpc9x/FB6-B9-D73-FA5-A-41-ED-A773-3-B8235-CC3-A2-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gwNb2Ws)
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: A.Merrill on June 22, 2022, 07:30:25 AM
Good fix.  Al
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: Metalshaper on June 22, 2022, 06:03:22 PM
was it a fill and smooth, then re-cut ???   or a peen and burnish, before the re-cut?
Just curious as to what he did..

That's a nice recovery, either way!!!

Respect Always
Metalshaper/Jonathan
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: varsity07840 on June 22, 2022, 10:07:17 PM
I didn't ask.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: Metalshaper on June 22, 2022, 11:11:38 PM
No worries, Just interested in case I need to fix my own engraving attempts.

Respect Always
Jonathan
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: varsity07840 on June 22, 2022, 11:42:08 PM
Message him on his Facebook page. That's how I contacted him.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: Mike Brooks on June 23, 2022, 12:15:08 AM
There are a couple other imperfections, you should have had him fix those too.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: FALout on June 23, 2022, 12:36:08 PM
Ouch
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: varsity07840 on June 24, 2022, 03:48:17 PM
There are a couple other imperfections, you should have had him fix those too.

I'm ok with imperfections. It's the divots that bug me.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: Mike Brooks on June 24, 2022, 06:12:19 PM
There are a couple other imperfections, you should have had him fix those too.

I'm ok with imperfections. It's the divots that bug me.
Contract Chuck for your engraving needs and you won't have to worry about it. OR....learn how to engrave and do your own work.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: varsity07840 on June 25, 2022, 12:54:46 AM
Lesson learned. Thanks.
Title: Re: Engraving
Post by: Mike Brooks on June 25, 2022, 07:39:51 PM
Lesson learned. Thanks.
No problem, always happy to help.