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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Jakob on June 17, 2022, 02:13:34 AM
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The books I have suggests that the cast-off should 'start' at the start of the comb, but I've seen a few places that says it should start at the end of the tang.
Is one method more correct than the other?
Seems to me that having a straight wrist would be more natural to hold, but having it at the tang, would make a shallower angle.
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Jacob, I like to start right at the end of the tang, for the reason you mentioned. Now, if you have a tang that extends through the wrist, and climbs the front of the comb, you might want to think that over a bit.
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Conversely, I draw cast-off from the breech. This will mean that you’re going to have to cast off the tang, triggers, and trigger guard. Learned that from an old boy down in Woodbury Ky.. I’ve made guns with cast-off and without. Most folks don’t know the difference and it hasn’t made a big difference in how the gun shoulders. I believe that drop and pull length are the big difference maker.
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Here’s a build tutorial from Mike Brooks that I refer to when building. It covers a lot. https://americanlongrifles.org/PDF/tutorial.pdf
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Conversely, I draw cast-off from the breech. This will mean that you’re going to have to cast off the tang, triggers, and trigger guard. Learned that from an old boy down in Woodbury Ky.. I’ve made guns with cast-off and without. Most folks don’t know the difference and it hasn’t made a big difference in how the gun shoulders. I believe that drop and pull length are the big difference maker.
Well, I've already inlet the breech/tang, so that ship has sailed :)
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You can start at the end of the tang. The main end is at the butt. It’s a gradual thing coming into the wrist section. On early rifles I start at the front of the comb, but later style I start at the end of the barrel. I think thinner rifles look better starting farther up, but that’s just me. It’s really up to you how you want it. I have made rifles with more cast in the top than the toe to avoid bending the triggerguard so much.
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I used to put cast off on every gun I built. Hardly ever do it now. Nobody knows the difference when they shoulder the gun anyway
The most critical measurement for stock fit is the drop at the comb. Get that right and everybody thinks your a genius
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On my LRS, the castoff starts halfway down the handrail of the TG. The amount of castoff is 3/16". Could be 1/4" if the buttstock is thicker......mine are not. It angles off the centerline.......Fred
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I was taught cast off on a longrifle is basically no more than a 1/4 inch. that being said shooting positioning for longrifles is different than modern guns. Face east and shoot north in other words parallel with your shoulders hold your head up high. modern guns are short you can point them any way you want. Modern shotgun shooting is done by looking at the target and not the sights that is why you want stock fitting so the gun points where you are looking when you shoulder it.
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Jakob, since your current project is a Jaeger I rechecked my collection and found none of my original Jaegers have any cast.
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If I put cast off in a stock, I start it at the rear of the lock panel.