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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Clowdis on December 03, 2022, 04:01:13 PM

Title: Girandoni air rifle
Post by: Clowdis on December 03, 2022, 04:01:13 PM
Somewhere I remember seeing plans for this rifle but I can't remember where I saw them. I have the illustrations found in Google but that's about it. Does anyone know where there is a link to the plans for building this air rifle?
Title: Re: Girandoni air rifle
Post by: Goo on December 03, 2022, 04:17:49 PM
Ernie cowan wrote a book documenting his work recreating this gun they are difficult to find.
Title: Re: Girandoni air rifle
Post by: 120RIR on December 03, 2022, 04:32:37 PM
I have several of Ernie's flintlocks but not one of his air rifles.  I didn't realize he put together a book or manuscript but if any copies are available, you might want to try his old business partner, Rick Keller, at Great War Militaria in Chambersburg, Penn.
Title: Re: Girandoni air rifle
Post by: Dave B on December 03, 2022, 11:19:25 PM
Dave Rase found a manule on building one as discribed by Ernie cowan and got it out of Scotland it cost him like $130.00 by the time he paid the fee's they levey. That was a couple of years ago. Good luck on finding one.
Title: Re: Girandoni air rifle
Post by: Daryl on December 04, 2022, 01:54:11 AM
IIRC, Lewis and Clark's air rifle was .30 cal. Someone made a replica of the Girandoni rifle in the States some time ago IIRC, seems to me and in .44 or .45 cal.?
Title: Re: Girandoni air rifle
Post by: Clowdis on December 04, 2022, 03:16:28 AM
Haven't had much luck in my searches so I think I'll try to get hold of Rick Keller and see if he has anything. Really appreciate the help guys!
Title: Re: Girandoni air rifle
Post by: oldtravler61 on December 04, 2022, 03:43:16 AM
  If you look up gun builder Dennis Priddy(sp) or Preddy he use to build them. He was featured in either Muzzle Blasts or Muzzle Loader magazine a while back. He built an exact copy IIRC.
  He's a Michigan builder and he's a wealth of knowledge on them.
  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Girandoni air rifle
Post by: helwood on December 04, 2022, 10:23:33 PM
Greetings, 
My name is Hank Elwood  and I've  added a pic of the two books talked about but if you are serious about making one only the Second Addition  is close enough to help and I would encourage you to double check all measurements.  In addition make sure of which Girardoni  part you are looking at first.  If I remember correctly they photographed x3 guns in the book.  And they are not all the same.   I built x2 Girardonis  and x3 Lukens Air Rifles.   I haven't put anything on the Forum because I thought it was Verboten.
(https://i.ibb.co/GTwy2HR/20221204-110036.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C2dg7PQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/g67p3TG/20221204-095843.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7bz5XWH)
Title: Re: Girandoni air rifle
Post by: Clowdis on December 05, 2022, 03:11:19 AM
Thank you Hank! I was able to download a free copy of vol. 2 which seems to be mostly canes but does contain a bunch of drawings of mechanisms used in air rifles/canes. Guess I'll have to fork out the coins for vol. 1. Either way, I appreciate this information, good stuff!
Title: Re: Girandoni air rifle
Post by: Longknife on December 05, 2022, 04:28:30 PM
IIRC, Lewis and Clark's air rifle was .30 cal. Someone made a replica of the Girandoni rifle in the States some time ago IIRC, seems to me and in .44 or .45 cal.?

Capt.  Lewis had a muzzle loading rifle that he called his "Small rifle" that carried 100 balls to the pound (36 cal) as described in the Journals. The Giannoni air rifle carried a ball that was .46 cal. as measured when the rifle was examined by Earnie and Rick.
Title: Re: Girandoni air rifle
Post by: Daryl on December 05, 2022, 09:26:02 PM
There ya go.