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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: recurve on December 07, 2022, 11:09:03 PM

Title: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: recurve on December 07, 2022, 11:09:03 PM
Grafs and sons has Black powder in stock Black powder at graf&sons on sale  just got the email
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: smylee grouch on December 08, 2022, 12:02:03 AM
Good news now for caps for the pop guns.
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: T*O*F on December 08, 2022, 12:23:26 AM
Is it ON sale or just FOR sale.
ON sale indicates it's being sold at a discounted price.
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: GrizG on December 08, 2022, 12:27:49 AM
Is it ON sale or just FOR sale.
ON sale indicates it's being sold at a discounted price.
The web site shows it as being on sale..., i.e., discounted.
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: Spalding on December 08, 2022, 11:09:40 PM
Thanks, just ordered some. Both Grafs and Schuetzen on sale, $18.99 and $19.79 a pound for 2F or 3F respectively.

Bob
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: moleeyes36 on December 09, 2022, 01:14:21 AM
Thanks, just ordered some. Both Grafs and Schuetzen on sale, $18.99 and $19.79 a pound for 2F or 3F respectively.

Bob


Bob,

Is that including shipping and MAZMAT fee?

Don Richards
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: rich pierce on December 09, 2022, 01:30:00 AM
Thanks, just ordered some. Both Grafs and Schuetzen on sale, $18.99 and $19.79 a pound for 2F or 3F respectively.

Bob


Bob,

Is that including shipping and MAZMAT fee?

Don Richards

It’s fun to dream!

No, it does not. For me, 6 pounds of Graf powder with shipping and hazmat came to $150.
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: Spalding on December 09, 2022, 04:22:32 AM
Thanks, just ordered some. Both Grafs and Schuetzen on sale, $18.99 and $19.79 a pound for 2F or 3F respectively.

Bob


Bob,

Is that including shipping and MAZMAT fee?

Don Richards

No, $12.95 shipping and I believe $24.95 hazmat. Plus tax.
Came to $139 for 5 lbs.

Bob
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: rich pierce on December 09, 2022, 04:30:22 AM
Just checked Graf&Sons web site. All I found was black powder replacement at $67 a pound.
You’re missing it somehow.
https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/3501
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: Spalding on December 09, 2022, 05:26:20 AM
Thanks, just ordered some. Both Grafs and Schuetzen on sale, $18.99 and $19.79 a pound for 2F or 3F respectively.

Bob


Bob,

Is that including shipping and MAZMAT fee?

Don Richards

No, $12.95 shipping and I believe $24.95 hazmat. Plus tax.
Came to $139 for 5 lbs.

Bob
Forgot to add, those rates are flat, meaning you could order up to whatever their limit is and pay the same.
Bob
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: Crow Choker on December 09, 2022, 07:40:25 AM
Over the last 50 years I've been shooting black powder (cap TC Hawken, variety of percussion revolvers-mostly 44's, and self reloaded conversion Uberti revolvers), I've always used Goex probably 95% of the time. Have used some Schuetzen and in the early days a 3F powder called Metor. To those of you who have used Graf's powder, how does it compare to Goex and also Schuetzen.

 I never really saw any advantage to Schuetzen over Goex, but I'll admit I've only burned around 3-4 pounds of the stuff. Goex has always been readily available at a nearby gunshop and until recently (onset of all the Covid $#@*) around $15-16 a pound. I've a pretty good stockpile of Goex 2/3F on hand. but never hurts to get some when available at a reasonable price. My gunshop owner has problems getting at times and I believe the last shipment he got in was selling maybe around $22-25 a pound. Just would like some feedback on how Graf's works compared to Goex and Schuetzen. I see Graf's indicates their store brand of black powder is manufactured by Wano, which I have heard some about. Thanks for any info. CC
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: Maven on December 09, 2022, 07:44:09 PM
Graf & Sons' sale prompted me to check my BP supply and lo and behold I had a few more pounds than I thought.  I'd have purchased more IF they had Alliant Unique in stock so as avoid extra Hazmat and shipping charges.  Alas, they did not.
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: hanshi on December 09, 2022, 09:34:44 PM
Just prior to the powder shortage I ordered powder from Grafs'.  At that time I believe they were using Goex for their house brand.  It was a great decision and the lowest price I was able to find.
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: HighUintas on December 10, 2022, 08:49:02 AM
Is graf's house brand now the same powder as scheutzen? that's what I have seen a few people say, but they may have just said that because they're both manufactured by wano. They could still be different powders.
Title: Re: black powder in stock and on sale Graf&sons
Post by: Crow Choker on December 11, 2022, 01:01:05 AM
Is graf's house brand now the same powder as scheutzen? that's what I have seen a few people say, but they may have just said that because they're both manufactured by wano. They could still be different powders.

So if that is the case, I assume Graf's orders their 'house powder' from Wano (who also produces Scheutzen) in large quantities and puts their name on it and sells it cheaper than the price of Scheutzen. No different than large businesses such as grocery stores, big box stores, and other big name businesses selling products that are manufactured/produced by name brands and sold cheaper. Still interested if any of ya have compared Graf's powder with the well known brands.