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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: wvmtnman on April 10, 2023, 04:37:51 PM

Title: Spit vs Lube
Post by: wvmtnman on April 10, 2023, 04:37:51 PM
Will you get a different point of impact with a lubed patch versus a spit patch? 
   Thanks, Brian
Title: Re: Spit vs Lube
Post by: smylee grouch on April 10, 2023, 05:30:34 PM
Probably, but would depend on the type of the other lube I think. I tried straight water for a lube once and it was terrible as compared to spit.  Experiment I guess.  ;)
Title: Re: Spit vs Lube
Post by: rich pierce on April 10, 2023, 06:13:59 PM
For match shooting, certainly every lube will change point of impact enough to test.
Title: Re: Spit vs Lube
Post by: Daryl on April 10, 2023, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: wvmtnman on April 10, 2023, 04:37:51 PM
Will you get a different point of impact with a lubed patch versus a spit patch? 
   Thanks, Brian

Usually.  The different lubes will also be cause to work up a new accuracy load as well.  The difference between spit and something slippery like LeHighValley and Mr. Flintlock I found, in
my .40 and .45 cals. was 10gr. of powder. It took 10gr. MORE powder to achieve the same accuracy and point of impact, with the slipper lubes.
I found spit as well as WWWF + a tich of Neetsfoot oil to shoot identically. I have not tested on paper, water soluble oil and water for the same characteristics, but they are likely there.
The 10:1 oil/water is quite slippery as well.
Title: Re: Spit vs Lube
Post by: Marvin S on June 21, 2023, 02:12:57 AM
My new to me lite bench rest rifle in 40 cal with Redfield Olympic sights shoots all over the place with greasy lubes, particularly wonder lube. I use hand sanitizer for lube now and what a difference that made.
Title: Re: Spit vs Lube
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on June 21, 2023, 07:54:33 PM
Mr. Mountainman:  as you can see by the responses, changing your lube DOES make a difference in the impact point of your balls.  But until YOU do some shooting, you won't have a clue how much difference.  So you have to go out and actually try various lubes to find out definitely what the difference will be.
Title: Re: Spit vs Lube
Post by: stikshooter on June 22, 2023, 12:59:39 AM
Quote from: Daryl on April 10, 2023, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: wvmtnman on April 10, 2023, 04:37:51 PM
Will you get a different point of impact with a lubed patch versus a spit patch? 
   Thanks, Brian

Usually.  The different lubes will also be cause to work up a new accuracy load as well.  The difference between spit and something slippery like LeHighValley and Mr. Flintlock I found, in
my .40 and .45 cals. was 10gr. of powder. It took 10gr. MORE powder to achieve the same accuracy and point of impact, with the slipper lubes.
I found spit as well as WWWF + a tich of Neetsfoot oil to shoot identically. I have not tested on paper, water soluble oil and water for the same characteristics, but they are likely there.
The 10:1 oil/water is quite slippery as well.
What's a tich amount to ? /Ed
Title: Re: Spit vs Lube
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on June 22, 2023, 07:56:29 PM
In a 25 oz (empty) whiskey bottle , 2 oz. of neatsfoot oil is a tich, but the amount is not critical.  More, or less, will work just fine.  We're not building a clock here.
Title: Re: Spit vs Lube
Post by: Nessmuck on June 24, 2023, 06:56:38 AM
What is WWWF ?

Windshield Washer Fluid ?
Title: Re: Spit vs Lube
Post by: Daryl on June 24, 2023, 08:51:26 PM
Winter Windshield Washer Fluid
I use Blue Thunder with no 'special' chemicals added.
This, for target shooting only (with a tich of oil) ;).