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Items for Sale/Wanted / Gunline tools
« Last post by porchdog48 on April 20, 2025, 05:06:35 PM »
For sale Gunline bedding tool and cutters. 1inch ,7/8, and 13/16 octagon cutters . 5/8 and 3/4 round cutters. This comes with everything pictured plus instructions. $130 shipped USPS Priority mail. Payment check or money order.
Dave

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Black Powder Shooting / Re: Basic procedure for working up a load
« Last post by MuskratMike on April 20, 2025, 04:25:02 PM »
Very simple, only change one variable at a time. I prefer the .395 ball in my 40 but that is just me. I would start with 40-45 grains of 3F and work up 5 grains at a time looking at accuracy and patches. That red/white ticking is probably.012-.014 so it might be a looser than desirable load. I do use that patching but with a .395 ball. Once you have found a good load change one variable such as lube, ball size or patching and start all over again. I like load development so I spend more time than most building my round ball load even though I am not a competitive target shooter.
Hope this helps, even a little. Only been doing it for 50+ years so I am still learning.
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Black Powder Shooting / Re: Basic procedure for working up a load
« Last post by okawbow on April 20, 2025, 04:09:27 PM »
I start with 1 grain per caliber and work up 5 grains at a time until the groups close up. In my .40’s my best target loads are around 45 grains 2F. And .40 grains 3F. Best hunting loads are 75 grains 2F and 70 grains 3F. Any hunting load over 60 grains will be plenty for deer. 100 grains would be ridiculous. The old standard was 1/2 the ball weight powder load, so 45 grains will be a good start.
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Black Powder Shooting / Re: Kentucky opening morning
« Last post by Stoner creek on April 20, 2025, 03:54:30 PM »
By golly!
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Items for Sale/Wanted / Re: Ohio rifle REDUCED
« Last post by Longknife on April 20, 2025, 02:49:55 PM »
Great price on a nice OHIO rifle!!!!!
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Black Powder Shooting / Re: Kentucky opening morning
« Last post by Austin on April 20, 2025, 02:48:21 PM »


Easter Sunday morning, Keith Vance .54 smoothie
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Black Powder Shooting / Re: Leading in my smooth bore
« Last post by Hawg on April 20, 2025, 02:12:59 PM »
Leading should come out as flakes on a patch.
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Gun Building / Re: Kibler Fowler carbine
« Last post by Woodpecker on April 20, 2025, 12:59:16 PM »
Curious if you've had a chance to pattern the carbine yet and also what was done to the front sight? It seems to be a taller blade than what came on it.
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Gun Building / Re: Colonial rifle I just finished (added a few pictures)
« Last post by hawkeye on April 20, 2025, 11:28:37 AM »
Indeed you did a nice job sir
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Black Powder Shooting / Basic procedure for working up a load
« Last post by Tomahawk on April 20, 2025, 09:19:07 AM »
I have very limited experience working up a cartridge hand load, but I knew what bullet I wanted to use and that I wanted to use a specific powder if possible because my brother-in-law had 3 pounds of it extra that he didn’t have use for, so as long as we could get decent results I would use it. So the only variables we were testing was grains and bullet depth. I understand the most basic rudimentary concept of load development, but I’m looking for some guidance as to where to begin.

Obviously 2 of the most important variables I should test are bullet diameter and powder volume.  I normally shoot either 50 grains of shuitzen 3f or goex 2f behind red/white pillow ticking (I gotta get a new caliper, mine bit the dust a while back) and round balls I make myself with the .390 Lee mold that came with my gun, which is a custom .40 with a Douglas barrel and hamm lock.

If you’re wondering why my powders vary, 15 years ago I was in a college fraternity that had a “cannon” that we shot off at football games and I bought 10 pounds so I could shoot it at my family’s 4th of July party that got rained out and it’s been in my dads gun safe ever since. Since I have all that powder anyway my stingy self has been using it when plinking/practicing.  I shoot the shuitzen at the monthly club shoots because it seems a bit more reliable.  I always prime with the 3f because I have not been able to get my hands on any 4f.

I had planned on ordering some hornady .395 balls, figuring they’ll outshoot my molded .390 and, like with the powder (assuming it will outshoot the homemades) shoot the .395s at club shoots and the homemades be a cost effective plinking practice option.

Up to this point ive had the best luck spit-patching…. Would have hoped to continue that, at least for this load, which I intend to be 25 yards and around 50g… a range load. Later I’ll consider something greased when I make a hunting load with 100+ grains.

So I guess my questions are, how should I approach this? I understand that I should make multiple targets and label each with whatever that specific load is,x brand of powder, ff/fff/ffff, x amount of grains, x diameter ball, x patch and shoot each from the bench. I like the idea of sticking to spit patching because it seems like, after a first fouling shot, that my bore condition would be roughly the same, right? Is there a good reason not to spit patch if it reliably ignights in my gun? Is there any reason to try anything different as far as my patch goes? Seems like everyone shoots pillow ticking…

What variable should I test first? is there anything I’m overlooking? What question should I have asked and didn’t.

Thanks in advance, Jay
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