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Offline David Veith

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Telling the deffence between
« on: September 06, 2008, 11:00:08 PM »
Coin silver, German silver. Just pick up a H Peice out of Liverpool Oh. It is missing a inlay >:(
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Re: Telling the deffence between
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2008, 11:19:57 PM »
Usually, old german silver has a very yellowish cast in color.
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Re: Telling the deffence between
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2008, 11:38:03 PM »
German Silver has no silver in it. It is nickle and brass alloy. This is why German Silver is not seen untill about 1830's or therabouts. Also known as Nickle Silver
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Re: Telling the deffence between
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2008, 01:20:17 AM »
Hyltoto I know about Not having silver in german silver. Just trying to figure out what the in lays that are left are. I did remove the last nail that was used to attach the old inlay. that they removed.  Looks like he made it. Ya normal way to do it I know.
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Re: Telling the deffence between
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2008, 07:18:25 AM »
I remember one time at Dixon's, Keith Casteel answered this question. If the inlay is missing on an old rifle, it was silver. If it was still there it wasn't. According to Keith they were pulled out during the depression to make ends meet (or something along those lines).

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Re: Telling the deffence between
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2008, 02:11:28 PM »
I went to a coin dealer for a coin  for some inlays. I cut one up and it was as hard as steel. I brought a piece of it back and he tested it with nitric acid, and it turned brownish. He said "Yup it's Silver"... now how much silver I don't know. ....Geo.
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Re: Telling the deffence between
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2008, 10:07:16 PM »
Quote from: hyltoto on September 06, 2008, 11:38:03 PM
German Silver has no silver in it. It is nickle and brass alloy. This is why German Silver is not seen untill about 1830's or therabouts. Also known as Nickle Silver

Actually the stuff originated in China, they called it Paktong and was known from the late 17th century. It just took Europeans till the early 19th century to make a similar alloy.
German silver is a copper alloy with nickel added to make it white.
The old site had photos of an English flint fowler mounted in Paktong.
Real silver is generally whiter and softer than German Silver.
The inlay was probably silver.

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Re: Telling the deffence between
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2008, 03:45:53 AM »
The following information is from the CRC Hnadbook of Physics and Chemistry.

The element nickel was first identified in 1751 in Germany by Cronstedt from the ore kupfernickel.

I believe "German Silver" is an alloy consisting of 70% nickel and 30% copper.

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