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mountainman70

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Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« on: October 01, 2010, 04:33:03 AM »
Hi y'all;I am trying to determine the aprox age of a Bill Large barrel on a hawken rifle I am interested in.I knew Bill back in the late 70's,but couldnt afford one of his finest then,now they are even harder to find.
 The stamp is W.M. Large,in a half circle.I believe he added the 4j's in the last years of production.Any one have the real skinny on this?
He was a fine ol Hivernan,and a good man too.Been missing him long time.Thanks,Dave

Offline smylee grouch

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2010, 04:46:37 AM »
I bought two of Bills barrels in the early 70s (72-73) and they had the four Js under his semi-circle stamp then.    Gary

mountainman70

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2010, 04:48:04 AM »
Thanks,Gary.This should be interesting.Dave

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2010, 05:05:48 AM »
I have a 1" .54 marked W.M. LARGE with 4 Js under that (no circle) and an L under that. I have a 15/16 .50 that is simply stamped W.M. LARGE. The M. actually looks like an A on the second barrel. I believe I ordered both barrels in 1979. He was a very interesting gentleman to talk on the phone with but oppinionated on what he thought I needed. Great barrels.  Danny

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2010, 05:18:54 AM »
Bill was a character for shure, he knew his stuff and was aheck of a shot too. I used to talk to him on the phone alot but never met him in person. He invited me down to shoot some hog matches and to my loss, I never could make it. Great guy and one of the original 33 shooters that started the NMLRA back in '34 I think.      Gary

mountainman70

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2010, 05:31:01 AM »
A visit to his shop was a religious experience,with machines running,and the Master Hisself holding court,'specially with us Pilgrims.Was my good fortune,as well as the men I know here in the Charleston area.All fine folks.

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2010, 06:16:48 AM »
The Bill Large pistol barrel I have has just an L4 on it. I know the gun was built in 1982.
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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2010, 12:29:01 AM »
40 cal barrel,   W.M. Large (in an arc)
                              J.J.J.J
                                  L
          is on a barrel with gunmaker's name and '78 engraved on the top flat.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2010, 03:14:20 PM by SCLoyalist »

Offline Jim Chambers

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2010, 02:30:31 AM »
I don't think the way Bill signed his barrels has anything to do with the date they were made.  I have one I ordered in the late 1960"s that has "WM Large JJJJ".  I have seen others with just his name, some with all four girl's names spelled out, and others with various sayings.

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2010, 05:56:05 AM »
I built a chunk gun with a .40 X 1 1/4 X 52" Bill large barrel that was stamped  by Bill "Old Maid's Dream"....... ;D
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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2010, 04:31:46 PM »
The Bob Roller lock on this gun has "72" stamped on the inside of the lock plate which I assume is the date it was made. Maybe this barrel is from 1972.


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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2010, 08:44:43 PM »
This one is about 1970, if I remember right! HA!

« Last Edit: October 03, 2010, 08:45:23 PM by California Kid »

mountainman70

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2010, 06:22:10 AM »
This one looks like the one I am considering.how much have you shot it,and how's it holding up for its age?Thanks,Dave

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2010, 07:00:25 AM »
It hasn't been shot that much so its like a new barrel inside.

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2010, 03:40:55 PM »
Kid, mine looks just like yours. Out from the name it is also stamped "JD Tagney "
On the other side it has "Lyford, Parke County, Indiana.......0002". It is a .36 cal
Ron

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2010, 09:36:27 PM »
Mine has Wm. Large in a arch over the date (1972).

mountainman70

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2010, 10:40:47 PM »
Well,now that I've stirred y'all up here,and this Is fun,anyone have a 1" 50cal on up,35 to44 inch WM Large round ball barrel that you are willing to part with?I have a TOW fullstock flint Hawken stock and parts,but no barrel.BTW,what gives with the shortage of m/l barrels?Thanks,Dave

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2010, 04:14:17 AM »
My 1965 barrel has only W.M.Large in  an arc.

mountainman70

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2010, 04:26:25 AM »
Thanks guys.It seems that 1970 back is wmlarge in arc,and afterward,the 4J's show up.I appreciate you all.Dave

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Re: Estimating date on Bill Large barrels
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2010, 09:10:59 PM »
I picked up another of Bill's pistol barrels last Saturday, and it's markings are   . L .
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