The first TGs I rec'd from Reaves initially prompted the thought..."Wow, really flimsy and where's the filing stock ?" Didn't use these and instead used a sandcast TG but on the next LR I thought what the heck..." start w/ one and see how it comes out seeing many builders use Reaves' TGs". Well, after filing it to final shape, the thought was still there..."awfully flimsy" and this prompted a post to ALR and the responses said to mount it and then it'll be "stronger" which was totally correct. Care has to exercised w/ these TGs when filing because there's not much leeway but they do eliminate the excessive time working a sandcast TG. Now the question is..."What'll I do w/ all the sandcastings?"....Fred