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mountainmen1969

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fullstock Hawken
« on: December 17, 2010, 08:27:13 AM »
I had a fullstock Hawken built, it's a percussion rifle. I had a breavertail cheek piece put on it. Is that right for this style of gun? I look at the guns in the cody museum in Wyoming and found only two fullstocks and they both had breavertail cheek pieces. Any in put?

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Re: fullstock Hawken
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 08:45:42 AM »
How about posting some pictures of your rifle.

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Re: fullstock Hawken
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 10:00:23 AM »
I have seen several full stock Hawken rifles that have had beaver tails at the cheek and had the early grip rail to boot.
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Re: fullstock Hawken
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2010, 06:20:54 PM »
I had a fullstock Hawken built, it's a percussion rifle. I had a breavertail cheek piece put on it. Is that right for this style of gun? I look at the guns in the cody museum in Wyoming and found only two fullstocks and they both had breavertail cheek pieces. Any in put?

The Hawken Brothers were not concerned with making a historically correct Hawken. They were making rifles and made them as they saw fit.
There are full stocks with "Kentucky" cheek pieces and some have the English style.
There are very ornate (for the time) rifles and very austere rifles as you know from visiting the Cody Museum. There is a 1/2 stock J&S rifle in the August 1998 Muzzle Blasts that has a 30" barrel, a relatively short forend , single key, checkered wrist, and German silver escutcheons, forend cap and entry pipe. It is stocked in Walnut with a 14.5" pull. I suspect it was stocked by Sam rather than Jake by the buttstock profile. Or not. The rifle was likely made to order since the original owner was from Virginia and never traveled west of St Louis so far as is known.

There are a lot of variations in Hawken rifles, be they the classic western mountain rifle or the local trade rifles. The Mountain/Plains rifles were very well made high quality rifles.

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Re: fullstock Hawken
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 07:21:41 PM »
I think it's far more important to capture the particular architecture of the Hawken rifle, rather than worry about the style of cheek piece.  I've seen both  styles on full stocked rifles, some beavertail'd pieces that were even paneled.
I'd love to see images of your rilfe...have a half stock on the bench right now!
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 08:24:32 PM »
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I look at the guns in the cody museum in Wyoming and found only two fullstocks and they both had breavertail cheek pieces. Any in put?

You saw two originals with the same cheekpiece.  That trumps what anybody might have said to the contrary.

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Re: fullstock Hawken
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 09:44:11 PM »
I think it's far more important to capture the particular architecture of the Hawken rifle, rather than worry about the style of cheek piece.  I've seen both  styles on full stocked rifles, some beavertail'd pieces that were even paneled.
I'd love to see images of your rilfe...have a half stock on the bench right now!


EXACTLY.

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