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Meteorman

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Lock panel detail question
« on: August 09, 2011, 01:59:10 AM »
Anyone care to share what tool they use to create the lack panel detail shown at arrows in pic below ?
I'm weary of butcherin' up my lock panels, so I'm looking for a better way.
Seems this detail is what makes the lock panel jump out.
(The pic is from Dixon's by the way - not one of my jobs !!!!)
thanks,
Mike

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Re: Lock panel detail question
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 02:32:30 AM »
I do all the shaping and tang carving first, then the borders there which often stand a bit proud are set in using the stabbing technique or a V chisel. 
A V chisel is quick but does not give a sharp shelf look.  The stabbing technique is more controlled.  Some will use a knife and others a chisel-shaped tool to stab directly down. Then the background is relieved with a skew chisel.

I often use a tool with a rounded end about 5/8" in diameter, with a razor edge.  I can roll this along the sketched in line with good control and great speed compared to other methods- but that's just me.

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Re: Lock panel detail question
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 03:30:16 AM »
there is probably a better way, but the way I do it is I cut an outline with a small palm pushed veiner then cut to the veiner cut with a small flat chisel to remove material from the oposite side. Seems to work for me.

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Re: Lock panel detail question
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 06:43:12 AM »
After I have drawn the design I stab it in with various gouges, then remove the wood with a carving knife.  I then go in and scrape the background.  Basically I treat it like grounding for relief carving.
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Re: Lock panel detail question
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 05:31:10 PM »
Hi Mike,
I think one problem that many folks have is that they start cutting the lock panel molding prematurely before they have created the right background profile.  I shape the lock area first with gouges, then round files, and then I smooth the contours with round scrapers.  I essentially finish the panels as if I was not going to add a decorative molding.  I want a clean, smooth transition from the curves of the forearm and wrist into the flat lock panels.  Then I outline my molding and use knives and chisels to punch in the edge very slightly.  Some makers use a V gouge to outline the edge. Again, using chisels and knives I back cut into the edge to remove background and create a slightly raised edge.  Once the background is scraped smooth, I am often done.  If I choose to shape the molding further, I use small gouges and tiny curved scrapers only.  

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Re: Lock panel detail question
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2011, 06:23:15 PM »
I have been using a modified X-acto knife but if you catch the grain just right it can run off course if you are not careful.. I then back cut and clean out with a skew chisel.  I'm liking some of these other methods mentioned... The X-acto is difficult to control depth of relief with.

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Re: Lock panel detail question
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2011, 06:29:30 PM »
As others have suggested, it's just carving.  Treat it the same as any other stock carving.  Search the site  and you should get many responses.

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Re: Lock panel detail question
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2011, 07:38:41 PM »
Rick; Made one of your style tools this morning. Began on a sample piece of curly maple, worked well and had fun executing a finished look to the panel. Thanks for the post. AJ
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Re: Lock panel detail question
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 07:55:20 PM »
thanks all.
I do a lot of X-acto work on my inlets with passable success, but was also using it on carving outlines, with less success.
I believe i will cease that practice in favor of the stab-in technique.
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