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lostsheep

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Hello all, total newb here needs ID help
« on: February 24, 2011, 09:57:32 PM »
First of all, I'd like to say hello to all.
You guys have a fine forum here, with an overwhelming amount of information to digest.

I've done a decent amount of reading on here and have looked at many different pictures in the library trying to get a feel for the various design queues that might indicate the origin of the following rifles. After doing this I can't say I am any closer to an answer. I see no shortage of threads asking for id help and I need your help.

Here's what I know:
There are no clearly visible makers marks on the exterior of the rifles. I am not completely opposed to disassembly if there is a good chance of finding a helpful mark. The rifles were purchased by my grandfather (who's no longer with us) 20 years ago or so. My family is from NW Georgia and I believe they would have been purchased somewhere in that area (eastern Tennessee is really close).

While I am interested in their value, they are not for sale nor will they be.
I welcome any and all comments, suggestions, or advice.

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beast44k

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Re: Hello all, total newb here needs ID help
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 04:53:50 AM »
Beautiful guns.....but why are you standing on a bathroom scale???
 ;)
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Offline Shreckmeister

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Re: Hello all, total newb here needs ID help
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 06:11:16 AM »
The rifle with the mushroom like finial brings Peter Gonter to mind.  The use of
3 large headed nails on the patchbox rails.  Keeping the engraving to one end
of the patchbox lid, the chunky fat looking finial.  The engraving hand.  It's
just something I see in it.
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Offline Hurricane ( of Virginia)

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Re: Hello all, total newb here needs ID help
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 06:17:03 AM »
Thoughts:
#1: Bedford Co a/or surrounding area counties. Appears to have been shortened. Have seen similar patchbox finials on Cambria Co ( Pringle) and Bedford ( Snider) guns.

#3 Looks to have a Lancaster style  stock but don't recognize the patchbox . Also appears shortened. Lock replaced  with unusual shaped mortise form  (boat shaped)...perhaps a clue to the maker identity..

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Offline Nate McKenzie

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Re: Hello all, total newb here needs ID help
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 06:26:14 AM »
The top one seems to have been made near Bedford or Somerset Co., Pa. 
The second one seems to have been made near Pittsburg, Pa. somewhere along the National Road.
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lostsheep

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Re: Hello all, total newb here needs ID help
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 08:39:51 PM »
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Beautiful guns.....but why are you standing on a bathroom scale???
 Wink

Ha Ha.....It's a step stool, and I was trying to fit the rifles in the frame.

Are there any other specific pictures that would help? Perhaps a shot of the muzzle or a bore measurement?

I appreciate all the help.

Thanks all.
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