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Offline Tim Crosby

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Couple of New Horns
« on: October 24, 2008, 12:19:56 AM »
 Here are a couple of horns I did this week and another pic of the Tansel style horn Larry asked for.

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Re: Couple of New Horns
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2008, 12:46:52 AM »
Tim,

All nice looking horns. On the third horn down, is the black bulbous part by the spout part of the horn or part of the screw tip? What material are you using to make your tips?

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Re: Couple of New Horns
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2008, 01:04:31 AM »
Tim,

All nice looking horns. On the third horn down, is the black bulbous part by the spout part of the horn or part of the screw tip? What material are you using to make your tips?

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 That is part of the horn, the tip on that one is antler,pinned on. The tip on the first is walnut, it is pinned on, the banded one is horn, it is a screw tip and the last one is also walnut and a screw tip.

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Re: Couple of New Horns
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2008, 10:09:17 PM »
Hi Tim,
Thanks for the extra pics.   The Tansel is especially helpful because of the class on Tansels done by Art DeCamp.   I like your eagle.   That said I also like the others too.   The engrailment on the first one is really cool.    I really have to try a screw tip soon.

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Re: Couple of New Horns
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2008, 03:27:13 AM »
love the Tansel horn very much
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Re: Couple of New Horns
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2008, 08:33:27 PM »
Very nice horns.  I really like the coloring on each.  What did you use to get the aged color if I may ask.
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Re: Couple of New Horns
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2008, 12:40:49 AM »
Very nice horns.  I really like the coloring on each.  What did you use to get the aged color if I may ask.
Gary

 
I put them in a mixture of fabric dye, some yellow mixed with some orange and maybe a little brown. I bring the bath to a boil and put the horns in and turn it off. I do not time them I just check them after a few minutes and if I like the color out they come. Then while they are still hot I paint them with oil based leather dye, I think I used mahogany on these.(I also use brown, dark brown or sattle tan depending on what I am looking for or a mixture)  Let it set and wipe it off, repeat until you get the color you like. Sometimes I do them with the plugs in, the third one down had the plug in. But if they are not in they are put in as soon as the horn comes out of the bath and then the dye is put on. While it is still warm, I rub black or brown shoe polish on them, let it dry and buff it off with a brush and a cloth. As I have said before, I think the heat from the bath opens the pours of the horn and gets the color in it rather than on it.  Hope this answers your question.

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Re: Couple of New Horns
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2008, 09:34:14 PM »
Tim, great info on the coloring of them.  I guess there are many ways to achieve the color one is looking for.  For a final finish and while still warm have you used a dark oil stain (similar to that in Sibley's book)?  I've used it on occassion and while it doesn't add much color, it does leave a varnish like film that seems to add another layer of protection.  Any thoughts on this?
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PS my own computer is down (bad motherboard) and won't be fixed until next weekend.  In the meantime I have to travel to my son's to use his.  Dang things, can't live without them once you get used to them. 
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Re: Couple of New Horns
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2008, 12:02:53 AM »
Tim, great info on the coloring of them.  I guess there are many ways to achieve the color one is looking for.  For a final finish and while still warm have you used a dark oil stain (similar to that in Sibley's book)?  I've used it on occasion and while it doesn't add much color, it does leave a varnish like film that seems to add another layer of protection.  Any thoughts on this?
Gary
PS my own computer is down (bad motherboard) and won't be fixed until next weekend.  In the meantime I have to travel to my son's to use his.  Dang things, can't live without them once you get used to them. 

  In their book (It is a good book to get started with) they use wood stain and powdered paint along with a heat gun to achieve a patina, I have not tried this method. I think color and patina are two different things. A horn will color over time but patina comes from dirt, grime, sweat,grease,etc...use. I use the shoe polish to kind of cut the color. I use it on wood carvings after painting them to subdue the colors and I think it works well on horns. 
 I did try wood stains to color horns years ago but it did not stay on the horn but then again the horn was not hot when I put it on. What I use works so I stuck with it.  I suspect that everyone who makes horns has a way that works for them. There are plenty of people out there with a whole lot more knowledge and skill with horns than I.   

Tim C.

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Re: Couple of New Horns
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2008, 07:59:24 AM »
Beautiful horns, fine work! Thank you for showing them to us, Tim. The coloring is superb, but then, so is everything else about them.
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