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Offline Shreckmeister

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Carmel horn
« on: August 06, 2012, 06:57:47 PM »
Found this horn also in Meadville PA.  Didn't get much response on the other I posted, but hoping
someone can tell me something about this one.  Their is a silver ring around the wooden button on
the plug.  The silver ring is held in with brass pins.  Horn is 9 inches outside tip to tip.  Plug is 1 5/8 inches across.  Appears to have had a varnishing years ago that is now worn glass smooth.  



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Re: Carmel horn
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2012, 11:43:08 PM »
Any help with the approx age or area this horn is from?
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Re: Carmel horn
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2012, 01:02:27 AM »
 Rob,
  First English power flasks in America probably late first quarter to early second quarter of 19th C. So you can date the use of a charger from that era up to today I would think. Looks like a one off, from any era.
 I may be off on the introduction of the flask to America but I think that is what I have read (not always right) or heard ( Once again, not always right).
 I think the French were the first to use them but I would like to know more or be corrected.

   Tim C.         
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Re: Carmel horn
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2012, 03:47:42 AM »
Flasks were imported from England back to the 17th century but Tim is probably on the date for a spout system of that shape. Off the top of my head there is a 1760's reference to powder flasks being for sale in the VA Gazette.
 I would say this head was probably taken off a flask after the period Tim cites and then applied to this creation. Can't help more on when this set- up was done though. Could be 1850 and could be 1950.
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Re: Carmel horn
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2012, 03:39:06 PM »
So you are saying there is no way to tell?
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Re: Carmel horn
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2012, 07:05:23 AM »
Just a little curious if that base plug is hollowed, or if you tried to check the depth with a wire?... Something about it makes me think 1860's to 1900.  Just a feeling!

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Re: Carmel horn
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2012, 02:55:39 PM »
Good call. Yes it is hollowed out
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Re: Carmel horn
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2012, 03:36:02 PM »
 It has a finial for a strap on the base but all I see at the neck is a screw eye and lit looks to be on the bottom. I wonder how it hung from a strap? Maybe the flask portion was added later in its life. Just a thought.

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Re: Carmel horn
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2012, 03:44:08 PM »
Quote from: Invictus Maneo on August 08, 2012, 02:51:11 AM
I need my glasses fixed.  I thought the topic was "camel horn".  I immediately opened the thread since I'd never seen one of those before........

Me too Eric ::) :D
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