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Offline cmac

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Oxy-fuel torch
« on: January 18, 2013, 05:16:58 PM »
I just bought an Oxy-fuel torch from tractor supply for $55. I'm pretty impressed with the little thing. It runs on mapp gas and oxygen. The kit came with cylinders, torch, sparker, and some welding and brazing rods. I cut through a piece of 3/16 steel with no problems and it welds nicely too. For those of you with only a propane or mapp torch I highly recommend one of these

Offline bluenoser

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Re: Oxy-fuel torch
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2013, 05:44:48 PM »
I have one and agree they work well for small jobs.  However....... they go through oxygen cylinders at an alarming rate  :o.  I have considered trying to adapt a larger (and refillable) oxygen tank to mine.  Although a small oxy/acetylene outfit will set you back considerably more, it will cover a much wider range of use and the cost of fuel will be much lower.  I find I am much less reluctant to fire up the oxy/acetylene rig.  But, then again, I am cheap with a capital C  ::).

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Offline Chris Treichel

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Re: Oxy-fuel torch
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2013, 06:47:34 PM »
Just an idea... On the OXY rig issue... read on armourarchive (gents who do lots of hot metal work) that they were taking used hospital type oxygen machines... daisy chaining them and making enough oxygen to run their welding rigs.

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Re: Oxy-fuel torch
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2013, 09:59:29 PM »
Propane = Hot
Map gas = Hotter
Oxy + ?? = hottest

According to what you need to accomplish.
For hardening etc I would recomend oxy + ?? for versatility.

Even better.... set up a simple forge.

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Offline Chris Treichel

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Re: Oxy-fuel torch
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2013, 10:19:07 PM »
There are lots of instructions out there on how to make a simple forges such as the two firebrick forge and ones made out of #10 cans, paint cans etc wraped in refractory wool. 

http://www.paragoncode.com/shop/micro_forge/
« Last Edit: January 18, 2013, 10:22:03 PM by Chris Treichel »

Offline kutter

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Re: Oxy-fuel torch
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2013, 11:34:05 PM »
I use a small oxy/acetylene torch set up /w the 'B' size tanks.
They are the smaller tanks, about 30" tall so they don't take up the entire shop.

The Acetylene tank holds 40 cu/ft,,the Oxy tank holds 60 cu/ft IIRC (Though I think there's a slightly smaller version that holds 40 cu/ft also)

Anyway,,right now a re-fill for the 'B' size acetylene is $28.50
Refill for the 'B' 60 cu/ft Oxygen is $16.50

Mapp gas is available the same way acetylene is in refillable tanks of different sizes at most places that sell welding supply and gases.
Even Propane can be used as the fuel and do alot for you and that can be very inexpensive.

I suspect the small store bought disposable Mapp gas and Oxygen cylinders are costly compared to that.
You have to figure the cost of either renting the tanks,,or buying yours into the mix.

But it may be worth doing it that way if you do any amount of work with the torch.

One shop I worked at was on Propane for it's heat and hot water.
So the bench torch simply used the same propane source and a small oxygen tank.
It was hot enough to do some small welding,,I managed to melt a couple of small ejector parts all by myself.


Just some thoughts..
« Last Edit: January 18, 2013, 11:38:36 PM by kutter »

Offline bgf

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Re: Oxy-fuel torch
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2013, 12:20:40 AM »
CMAC,
I thought I had seen that at TSC, but on Dennis' thread a while back I couldn't find it online, just a bigger (though not outrageous) one.  Is yours on the TSC website?  I need feed soon (animals eat a lot in winter, go figure), so I can go to TSC and browse the welding section, but they might not have it that day.  Thanks!

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Re: Oxy-fuel torch
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2013, 02:29:03 AM »
I couldn't find it on their web site.   

I have a small forge I made to work with a mapp gas torch but it was hard to braze or weld with it. I have use of a coal forge I use at my father's house for gun parts, knives, etc. I just got this torch set for quick brazing jobs at the home shop

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Re: Oxy-fuel torch
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2013, 03:12:32 AM »
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I have a small forge I made to work with a mapp gas torch but it was hard to braze or weld with it. I have use of a coal forge I use at my father's house for gun parts, knives, etc. I just got this torch set for quick brazing jobs at the home shop
I made one of these too and it just isn't large enough to anything but heat up a tang enough to forge it out. Everything else I have tried to use it for its too small. I thought I could get a trigger guard in it but if trying to braze I have problems positioning it properly.

I did find out that I can use a single burner Coleman stove, underneath something that I want to braze, works fine. Turn the stove up and let the part heat up then use the Mapp torch to braze in the normal fashion. Works great. Not sure I can weld (small rod) with it but I am going to try.
I have a coal forge but it takes to long to fire up and bring up to temp just to do a 2 minute brazing job!

I have one of the little Oxg/Mapp set-ups but haven't used it in awhile because it eats up Oxygen tanks like they are candy and at $8.95 each I can't stomach the expense!
Dennis
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