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knifemaker3

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Missouri guns....
« on: May 03, 2013, 11:47:31 PM »
Other than the St. Louis Hawken, are there any other bp guns that started in Missouri?  I see all types of influences from other parts of the country, i.e, kentucky, pennsylvannia, etc.  What about Missouri?

Just curious being a ozark hillbilly all my life..... ::)

Offline JCKelly

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Re: Missouri guns....
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2013, 01:24:23 AM »
Mr. Ozark H - get thee a copy of:
Missouri Gunsmiths to 1900, Victor A. Paul, Obscure Place Publishing PO Box 2026,
Washington, MO 63090-0828

Just in case your local bookshop lacks one, try www.abebooks.com

Couple years ago Victor Paul had a spiral-bound supplement, don't know if he published it yet. Nevertheless, Mr. Paul is THE guy on Missouri rifles.


Offline Bob Roller

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Re: Missouri guns....
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2013, 01:26:36 AM »
The Dimick is another well known St.Louis rifle and I'm sure there
are people who know of more on this forum.

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Re: Missouri guns....
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2013, 01:48:13 AM »
There is a museum at Arrow Rock that has Missouri rifles.  Sites was a major builder.
Herb

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Re: Missouri guns....
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2013, 02:01:54 AM »
I suggest one by our own Dr James B Whisker "Gunsmiths & Allied Tradesmen of Missouri" and he has a great price for ALR members @ $20 postpaid. 128 pages total and page 97 - 128 are all photos of Missouri rifles/pistols. The first part is a listing of historical documentation of Missouri makers. See link below for ordering information.
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Re: Missouri guns....
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2013, 02:43:41 AM »
If you can't find Vic Paul's book Email me . I think I have an extra.   JIM
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Re: Missouri guns....
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2013, 04:06:46 AM »
The Sites gunshow in Arrow Rock is most interesting & well provided for, worth a visit, etc. BUT Sites was a VIRGINIA maker and carried his style with him to MO. The same is true of Valentine Schuler (OH) and Jacob Briggle (Bedford co, PA). And of course the Hawken clan started in Hagerstown, MD, and came to MO by way of OH. It is truly unfortunate that we think of the St. Louis plains rifle makers as the only MO gunsmiths of consequence. There were other "schools" centering in such places as, e.g, St. Joseph and Cape Girardeau.

Offline Don Stith

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Re: Missouri guns....
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2013, 05:23:54 PM »
Most everyone in Missouri came from someplace else. As did all non-indigenous people in North America.
 Even my own family came in through Jamestown with stops along the way in Kentucky before getting to Missouri
 Just  started counting the makers identified by Vic Paul. Quit at 270 and that was just A, B, & C last initial.

 Question for Mr Whisker
All the Jacob Breigle rifles I have seen use the signature as I just spelled it. I am aware there were many variations in spelling for most families in the 1800's.  Can you recommend where I can find the spelling you prefer for this maker ( Briggle).
Thanks

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Re: Missouri guns....
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2013, 04:07:47 AM »
John Rinehart from Hampshire County VA/WV went to MO. So did Nathaniel Oates. There is a Henry Sheets from Virginia who went to Gallatin MO. His son John was killed by Jesse James in a bank robbery. I think that Henry Sheets was the son of John Sheets from Staunton Virginia  I know some collectors say Henry went to Ohio, but I think he went to MO. Read the attachment .

http://www.daviesscountyhistoricalsociety.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=123&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

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Re: Missouri guns....
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2013, 08:42:21 PM »
Thanks for all the replies!  Gives me much to research.  Kinda getting interesting all the history behind these great old builders and their wares.  Thanks!