Barrel Cleaning Problem

[WadePatton]

I am a grouch & I agree with Smylee Grouch.

Grandfather said use cold water. He never shot a breechloader until he was 18.

Me, I am a Pain in the Ass metallurgist now & again involved with corrosion.

Soap has salt. It is corrosive to iron.
I liked that when employed, it helped sell more really fancy high alloys to P&G.

Hot water rusts iron faster than does cold.

Salt and hot water rusts iron just dandy.

Dish soap has damnifino what but it will pit 18% chromium 10% nickel flatware, if left on. 

Cold water.

Cold water, cold water, cold water

Dry & oil.

Same here, Smylee, Dan and James!! 

Holland and Holland - of ENGLAND - old time & current double rifle and double shotgun makers of the finest quality (not the new US barrel maker of that name) told my friend to use nothing but tap-cold water in his collection of black powder shotguns and rifles, else he'd ruin the bores due to flash rusting. I know some say they do not get flash rusting- good for them. Mine did when I used hot water & soap, Taylor's did when he used hot water and soap and Peter N's. rifle barrel was almost ruined from years of using hot water and soap.  After reading that note from H&H, I switched, as did Taylor. No more flash rusting after cleaning.

Cold water works for us. There is NO need for soap when shooting real black powder.

 

Makes perfect ordinary sense to me.  Confusion seems rampant in this regard.  I think i got it though...water.

[Forrest]

I recently started adding Dawn dishwashing soap to my cleaning water.  Don't know why, just did.  Started getting after-rust.  Then read somewhere recently (maybe here) about soap containing salts as JC pointed out.  Went back to plain old water, no after-rusting.

   Dawn dishwashing soap has ammonia, ammonia and bp fouling don't mix well then the salt and rust will be fast.

    Forrest