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Offline Leatherbark

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L&R lock sear hardness
« on: January 24, 2014, 02:08:19 AM »
I've been tuning on a young friend's percussion longrifle.  It uses an L&R John Bailes style lock.  I had to buy him a new sear as the sear bar was broken off.  The sear I bought from T.O.W looks "as cast".  Are these already hardened and tempered? The casting will need cleaned up and polished some first. If not hardened how hot should I heat it and what should I quench it in?  And then temper in the oven at a certain temp for a certain amount of time?

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Bo

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Re: L&R lock sear hardness
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2014, 02:19:01 AM »
I doubt it's been heat treated.  Fit it, polish it, heat it red, quench in oil, re-polish it, temper it to dark straw/brown.  Probably not correct - just what I'd do.
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Re: L&R lock sear hardness
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2014, 02:47:45 AM »
I temper sears and tumblers to 500 F .

Offline Scott Bumpus

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Re: L&R lock sear hardness
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2014, 02:50:51 AM »
Call L&R and ask them.  They know what kind of steel was used and the proper tempering method. 
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Re: L&R lock sear hardness
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2014, 03:06:20 AM »
This is how the part is described at Track-

sear, wax cast steel, tempered, use 6-40 screw

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Re: L&R lock sear hardness
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2014, 08:39:19 AM »
Part will be easiest to work in the annealed state. But the part is supplied hardened.

Heat dull red, and bury in a tin can of dry wood ash. Let cool several hours before working.

I do this with frizzens, because soft, they are so easy to file. Hard, all you can do is stone them for days on end. Which I hate.

Then re-harden.
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Re: L&R lock sear hardness
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2014, 04:57:49 PM »
Any insulating material will work for annealing.   I use Pearlite which you can get in the garden area of Lowes or Home Depot.    This works well enough for most things.   If I have a piece that I just can't get soft enough with the Pearlite,  I use my heat treat oven. 

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Re: L&R lock sear hardness
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2014, 06:01:52 PM »
You can also pack a piece in crushed charcoal in a tin can, bring up to red heat in a fire. Cover the can up with coals, then leave it there to cool slowly. This is how I anneal my frizzens. The charcoal pack maintains the carbon in the frizz.
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Re: L&R lock sear hardness
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2014, 01:28:26 AM »
A big Thank you to everyone.   Great advice.  I'll get to work it as soon as it is colder in Fairbanks Alaska than it is in southern WV.

Bob