Looking to get a lefty Early Germanic built (made?).

[jamesthomas]

 Since Mr. Roller is no longer in the lock business, I'm looking for someone to make a Lefty Early Germanic Lock from a Gun Makers lock from Jim Chambers. I would like one for a Isaac Haines build down the road a ways. I just like the way the tail curves down into the wrist area. Thank you, James E.

[cmac]

Here is one I made from a Chamber's gunmaker's lock... http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=28215.30   I don't think you can get much more of a"banana shape" out of one of these. I was close to the internals on the back. Really the plate isn't quite large enough to achieve what I wanted. At least without welding on or making a new/larger plate all together

[rich pierce]

James, it's not strictly possible to get a mirror copy of the Chambers Germanic from the a Gunmakers lock with the existing parts. 

[tallbear]

As Rich said an exact copy of a Chambers Early Germanic from a Gunmakers lock would be difficult ,but it is possible to get a nice early lock out of it.This is one I did a while back out of a Gunmakers albeit a right handed one that is based on the lock on the Jon Schriet (RCA#18) rifle.It would also possible to unbridle the frizzen if you wished.

Mitch Yates

[rich pierce]

Nicely done!

[Rolf]

It is possible to make a banana shaped lock using a left handed siler lock and making a new lockplate out of sheet metal.
I made the locks below for a pair of Swedish officer pistols. All the parts expect the lockplate are from the small siler lock. To get the banana shape the tumbler had to be placed lower on the lock plate in relation to the pan.

1.Fit the pan to the new lockplate blank.

2.Take a compass and measure the distance from the middle of the pan to the middle of the tumbler hole. Put one compass leg on the middle of the pan and rotate the other on the new plate to find the new center for the tumbler hole.

3. Mount the rest of the parts on the lock plate

4. Adjust the parts so the lock works. You will have to shorten the hook on the main spring and the toe of the tumbler were it rests. Likewise the angel of the shoulder of the cock and the
angel of the frizzen toe has to be adjusted.


I was surprised how far the the tumbler could lowered and still make a lock that sparks great.

[Acer Saccharum]

Nice lock work Rolf and TallBear.

[jamesthomas]

 Yes, that's some nice work!. Its tough being a lefty shooter, I'm right handed but because of physical problems I can only shoot left handed. Jim Chambers said if I can come up with $25,000.00 for the tooling set up he could start making lefty Germanic and Late Ketlands, anybody have some spare change? What other lock would work for a Isaac Haines other than a Siler lock?

[Acer Saccharum]

You could use a roundfaced English. They were imported in the 1750's thru 1790's, and used on American guns. Take a little artistic license.

[Elnathan]

You could use a roundfaced English. They were imported in the 1750's thru 1790's, and used on American guns. Take a little artistic license.

RCA 74, by Valentine Fondersmith, has a round-faced lock.

[jamesthomas]

 Thanks guys, you all have given me something to think about  .