Author Topic: Liogier #49 Prototype Rasp  (Read 17745 times)

Offline Gaeckle

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Re: Liogier #49 Prototype Rasp
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2014, 06:07:18 PM »
........who sells the Auriou rasp? And again, what's the investment, the cost?

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Re: Liogier #49 Prototype Rasp
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2014, 06:27:06 PM »
Gaeckle, here is a tutorial on various rasp options and suppliers: http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=27762.0
Tom Curran's web site : http://monstermachineshop.net
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Offline David Rase

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Re: Liogier #49 Prototype Rasp
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2014, 07:22:01 PM »
........who sells the Auriou rasp? And again, what's the investment, the cost?
Gaeckle,
Lie Nielsen sells the Auriou rasps. That is where I ordered mine from.  Here is the link. http://www.lie-nielsen.com/
David

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Re: Liogier #49 Prototype Rasp
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2014, 07:55:07 PM »
Thanks guys......I bookmarked that page.eau's greatest hits



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Re: Liogier #49 Prototype Rasp
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2014, 01:01:06 AM »
Gaeckle,

I don't think Noel has set a price on the Liogier prototype 49 rasp.  I assume because it is still in development?

-Ron
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Offline Gary Tucker

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Re: Liogier #49 Prototype Rasp
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2014, 02:43:11 AM »
I received the rasp today from Ian.  Am anxious to get using it on a piece of curly ash [the same one I asked earlier about how to fill worm holes].  I'm curious about how much it will clog up on the ash's rougher grain.
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Re: Liogier #49 Prototype Rasp
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2014, 02:31:44 AM »
Well I sent the rasp on the way to David Rase today and I have to say I hate to see it go.  I was anxious to use it on the curly ash stock that I am working on now.  Before i touched it to the wood I checked it over and did notice that the radius is greater that the Nicholson that I have [USA].  The teeth are larger and spaced farther apart.  The teeth on the edge [the ones that are facing 90 degrees away from the rest] are much larger.
While using it on the ash it did cut more aggressively.  Sometimes when working it across the grain it almost grabbed the wood too much, causing the rasp to hang up.  I think that is something that you could learn to avoid after using it awhile.  When I use a rasp I nearly always have the handle in my right hand and lay my left hand on the rasp to help guide and control it.  With this rasp it is really too sharp to do that because the teeth are so sharp it is really uncomfortable.  Maybe I just needed to find a better way to use it, because I'm certainly not complaining about the teeth.
Now for the best part.  This rasp just dosen't want to clog up.  Even when using it across the grain of ash it clogged very little.  What little did get in the teeth carded out very easily.  I used my Nicholson #49 across the grain to compare and it really clogged the teeth, and was hard to card out.
If I was in the market for a #49 rasp I do think I would choose this rasp over the Nicholson.  You just have to keep in mind that it more aggressive, therefore you have to switch to the #50 a little sooner.
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Re: Liogier #49 Prototype Rasp
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2014, 04:48:59 PM »
Thank you Gary for your feedback and your kind comments. I am glad my work satisfied you.

Regarding the coarsness of this prototype, you are not the first one to warn me that the prototype rasp is coarser than a Nicholson #49 (made in USA), so I plan to change the grain (size of the teeth) before releasing the final product : you tested a rasp with grain #6 and I now think that the finer grain #8 is more comparable to the "aggressiveness" of the Nicholson rasp.

I initialy choose a grain #6 so the teeth have the same dimensions as Nicholson, but hand-stitched teeth being much shaper than machine-made one, I have to reduce the size of my teeth to get the same coarsness (and in the same time improve the smoothness of the obtained wood surface by using smaller teeth).

Many thanks again for your help.

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Re: Liogier #49 Prototype Rasp
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2014, 06:32:06 AM »
I received the Rasp in the mail today from Gary.  I will work up a program for the rasp to test at Ron Scott's.
David