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Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild
« on: August 12, 2014, 08:28:16 PM »
On August 8-10 the Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Gunmaker's Fair took place in Bozeman. We had a good turn out and as usual a number of excellent presentations.


The Washington Guild was well represented.
Here Dave Rase and Steve Baima are showing us how to draw and erase at the same time (well not really but it was too good to pass up ;D)


Mark Morain kept a number of members busy cutting out and sewing in his Shooting/Hunting Pouch class.

Dave Peelgren did an excellent talk on hidden hinge patch boxes and making sets of identical escutcheons.

Dave Rase did a power point presentation on the importance of the Kentucky Rifle developed by the KRA.

Matt Dennison of NorthStar West did a Barrel Browning explanation and Demo that actually produced brown in 3 days in Montana. Something that we wondered about but he got a break with the relative humidity which sometimes makes rusting difficult RHs under 10 are not unknown here.

Joe Sharber did some velocity testing of vents and breeches in the week before the Fair and while he had limited data it was interesting and as soon as he heals up he will do more testing. Sorry Joe could not resist....

Gary Huber gave a presentation on Scrimshaw and also donated scrimshawed horn that was signed by attendees over the course of the Fair then was drawn for Sunday. It was won by Mike Clark who said he would only sign it if he won it...

Dan Phariss did a presentation on blackpowder and blackpowder ballistics.

Ryan Roberts' (Muzzleloader Builder's Supply) presentation on Lehigh Valley guns was very well done, as is typical of his work.
He also brought a selection of stocks, ramrod blanks and other parts.


Terry Jo Mann, also of MLBS did a class on Body Stress relief and at one time had several members, including Ryan, pushing on trees and laying on the grass. Doing inletting, carving etc does set up a lot of stress in backs and shoulders and she real relief to several patients.



We had a very informative presentation on adhesives by Bill Madden covering various wood glues and epoxies and their strengths and characteristics. 

Randy Cochran did another great presentation this year, this time on Southern Hunting Pouches, horns and bag axes.


Dick Weaver did a well received in persona talk on the early fur trade detailing the difficulties with the first attempt to place a post in Three Forks of the Missouri area.


There were numerous others including a long panel presentation by Bruce Benedict, Steve Baima and Dan Phariss on shop made tools and fixtures. Steve explained how he did the layout for his engraving on a pistol side plate as he works toward a pair of brass barreled pistols ala  Kuntz.




Dave describing his current project during the "Current Projects" forum.


We should have more photos, but for the inherent laziness of the Guild member doing the videos and such. Modesty prevents my mentioning his name...

Dan
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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2014, 10:09:27 PM »
Thanks Dan,
It is nice to see our western brethren.  It is also nice to see that there is a core of folks, like you and Dave, who help to keep old gunmaking alive and thriving.  Looks like some stressed out old guys on the ground there.  So, did she walk on their backs?   

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2014, 10:48:00 PM »
Thanks for sharing photos Dan!  Looks like it was a good time.  Who is making the swivel breech Kuntz or Hawk that I see on the rack behind Rase? 
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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2014, 11:18:18 PM »
That's one of Dan's projects.
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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2014, 09:29:34 PM »
Thanks for sharing photos Dan!  Looks like it was a good time.  Who is making the swivel breech Kuntz or Hawk that I see on the rack behind Rase? 
-Eric

Its me. Its a Hawkish version.
Been in the works for some time now.
Hint. Brass panels are something of a pain to form. But FITTING to the front locks will really test one's resolve. I was hoping to have it farther on for the fair but got derailed by working on a stock for a freind.

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2014, 10:04:07 PM »






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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2014, 02:38:49 AM »
Dan,
These gorgeous panels look to be produced by "someone" with skills of a particular trade. Hmmm, I wonder what other talents this someone might be hiding from the forum.

You gentlemen have a very good event going there and I hope to see more from the future. Thank you for sharing.

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2014, 04:32:07 AM »
Thanks.
Its been a learning experience.

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2014, 05:18:23 AM »
Great report, thank you very much for this, Dan. Please chastise the lazy photographer when you see him, but we appreciate as much as we got.
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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2014, 05:20:34 AM »
Terry Jo at ML Builders Supply sent me a few more photos so I will post a some.

Some of the Allentown inspired guns.





The second rifle down is an original that was badly shattered then "fixed" sometime in the past then restored by our past Guild President.
The third down is what is believed to be a restocked Allentown. The hardware is basically all Allentown but the stocking is somewhat crude generic percussion rifle. New member brought it along to have it looked at. Appeared to have been shortened a few inches at the breech.



A few of the usual suspects.




Rich Wheeler's lock display



Thanks Terry

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2014, 05:50:23 AM »
Do post photo's of your Gatling gun when further along Dan, looking good my man and thank you for the photo report. The event looked both fun and informative.

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2014, 06:54:13 AM »
Thanks for that report Dan. Is this event open to the public or non guild member riflesmiths? If so can non member riflesmiths bring guns along to display and get pointers from your guild members? I would like to attend and thought that if there was some shooting event in the close local, I could justify going easier.  Looks like the swivel breech is coming along quite nice by the way.

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2014, 05:47:06 PM »
Thanks for that report Dan. Is this event open to the public or non guild member riflesmiths? If so can non member riflesmiths bring guns along to display and get pointers from your guild members? I would like to attend and thought that if there was some shooting event in the close local, I could justify going easier.  Looks like the swivel breech is coming along quite nice by the way.

We welcome anyone with interest and encourage people with projects or original guns. Though if they intend to attend the whole fair we require paying the same registration fee as everyone else, as it helps defray food costs etc.

Dan
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