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Canvas drop cloth to use as a diamond / lean to shelter.
« on: October 19, 2014, 10:43:49 PM »
Don't know if this qualifies as an accoutrement or not, so if it isn't please move it to where it belongs.  :-\  I'm considering buying a nice size canvas painters drop cloth (11' x 14') to use as my primitive camp shelter. I was wondering if anyone else has done this, and if so, what is the best way going about waterproofing it??  ??? Also any pictures of your "drop cloth shelters" set up in various configurations would be of great help!  ;D

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Re: Canvas drop cloth to use as a diamond / lean to shelter.
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2014, 10:57:57 PM »
I've used one for years.  Got it wet, then let it dry in the sun. I've never waterproofed it.  It works OK without it.
I'm not much for posting photos [ not computer davy] but can e-mail you some photos if you like.

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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2014, 10:59:23 PM »
My daughter and I used two diamonds made of fairly light drop cloth's for several years. Light to pack and worked well for wind/sun protection. Never really had to try them in a downpour but there are a number of good waterproofers available. You might try to avoid the paraffin based liquids that may be flammable. I have been looking at some tarps at Home Depot that look like they would work for just what you're talking about. We use them at work to cover big diesel engines during assembly. Not to heavy and a great color.

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Re: Canvas drop cloth to use as a diamond / lean to shelter.
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2014, 12:52:51 AM »
My diamond is "real" oilcloth from a roll found in an old general store.  It is not linseed based but I don't know what was used.  I rolled it in newspaper and left it in the basement over the winter.  It still oozed oil, so I ran it up an oak tree and let it weather.  That was 0ver 20 years ago and the blamed thing will still transfer oil if you happen to put it on something absorbant.

There are different grades of drop cloths.  Some are made of multiple lengths sewn together.  These are guaranteed to leak at the seams.  If you go to a paint store, you can find them with one or no seams and they are a bit heavier grade of material.  A friend bought one, wadded it up into a 5 gal bucket and poured in a gallon of Thompson's Water Seal.  He let it soak a couple of hours and then put it on the clothesline to dry. 

We sewed a 6" x 6" elk hide in the center to prop the pole against.  Instead of grommets, we used musket balls.  Took several pieces of heavy twine and square knotted the ends together so we had loops.  Then folded the loop back on itself to form a slipknot which was put over the musket ball and tightened.  These never pull out like grommets and when the twine wears out, you just replace it.

I used mine in all types of weather and never got wet nor cold.  However, in heavy rain or winter camp I rolled up inside of it instead of pitching it.
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Re: Canvas drop cloth to use as a diamond / lean to shelter.
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2014, 04:41:50 AM »
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Re: Canvas drop cloth to use as a diamond / lean to shelter.
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2014, 05:24:13 AM »
they make dandy couch/chair covers for single men (with dogs) too.   ;)
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Re: Canvas drop cloth to use as a diamond / lean to shelter.
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2014, 03:49:46 PM »
Some years ago Mark Baker did a video showing how to waterproof cloth for a shelter. Check Pioneer videos.

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Re: Canvas drop cloth to use as a diamond / lean to shelter.
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2014, 06:51:26 PM »
Check with Panther Prinitives for your canvas water proofing. good stuff.

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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2014, 08:19:25 PM »
I have an old BC Gov't issue Baker tent made of Egyptian cotton, and it needed a fly.  So in keeping with the super light weight material of the tent, I bought the closest weave cotton sheeting I could find at the yard goods stove, sewed it into a fly with reinforced edges and diamonds over the corners, and water proofed it with Thomson's Water Seal.  It is water proof, super light and easy to pitch.
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Re: Canvas drop cloth to use as a diamond / lean to shelter.
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2014, 02:25:50 AM »
Thanks for all the replies fellas! I have a question about using the Thompsons water seal for my drop cloth. Doesn't it leave a somewhat tacky / sticky residue on the canvas after it's been soaked in it?? I was considering spraying the cloth with cans of camp-dry waterproofing spray, but I think I'd need to buy more cans than I'm willing to buy in order to cover 11 by 14 feet of canvas. I know I sprayed a small two person dome tent years ago and that little thing took 2 or 3 cans! So far I'm leaning towards using the Thompsons.......

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Re: Canvas drop cloth to use as a diamond / lean to shelter.
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2014, 04:01:22 AM »
TWS has a strong odour at first, but quickly disappears.  I apply it with a paint roller...soak the cloth and let it dry.  There is no stickiness or wetness after it dries...overnight.
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Re: Canvas drop cloth to use as a diamond / lean to shelter.
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2014, 05:24:02 AM »
I've done the 5gal bucket soak with TWS, let it soak for 12 hrs pull it out, pack it back in for another 12 let it hang on the clothesline for 24 and it was dry (not tacky) and had no odor.
I have one as a ground cloth/bedroll wrap and one as a shelter both shed water but the ground cloth has mold stains from 10 years of use.
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Re: Canvas drop cloth to use as a diamond / lean to shelter.
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2014, 07:12:19 AM »
Gommets were common way back when. They were sewn like a large round button hole.
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Re: Canvas drop cloth to use as a diamond / lean to shelter.
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2014, 06:07:40 PM »
Properly, a grommet is the reinforcing ring that's stitched in to reinforce the hole. They are pretty easy to learn to make. Practicing with larger stuff to get the hang of it will soon have you making small ones. I make mine with tarred marline. Since you unlay a length of three-strand, each cut makes three grommets. Then learn to stitch a buttonhole stitch to attach it to the cloth. I like to give them a bit of Stockholm tar to add some protection. They last a long time.

Grommet instruction:

http://scouting1659.org/minnow/doc/minto/HOW%20TO-%20Make%20a%20Rope%20Grommet.pdf
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