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Offline Daniel

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large lock
« on: November 07, 2014, 04:29:16 PM »
Who besides  TRS makes a big lock? Looking for a Dutch style . One that is around 6 1/2" or larger.



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Re: large lock
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2014, 05:25:20 AM »
I guess this means no one knows.
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Re: large lock
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2014, 04:51:44 PM »
I guess this means no one knows.
I think it more than likely means there is not one being built.
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Re: large lock
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2014, 05:29:17 PM »
Check with Chambers on their new round face lock. My class used it on a Blunderbus class.
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Re: large lock
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2014, 05:40:59 PM »
Loyalist Arms used to have their "India" made locks, for sale. I know they had some large early style, [ dog locks ]
These locks were forged, and assembled in India and were the same as used on the firearms Loyalist sold.
Might be an option for you.  Otherwise, Jeff Miller, for one, could make you one.  I believe Mike Miller offers hand made locks as well.

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Re: large lock
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2014, 06:10:07 PM »
Jack Brooks has a nice early round faced Dutch lock.

Offline Daniel

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Re: large lock
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2014, 06:24:52 PM »
Mike, first off you are right. My wording was out of line.
I considered a lock from India and not real sure about them.
Although they are hand forged. PC I would say.
I'll check Chambers too. John Bosh when he was alive
helped me some on building BIG locks. I can't do the fine
work any more.
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Re: large lock
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2014, 07:49:40 PM »
New Chambers roundface is 5 15/16 long, 1 1/16 tall just behind the fence. There is about a 5/32 gap when I put a straightedge across the 'banana' curve along the bottom edge of the plate.

No screws show on the face of the lock except for the cock retaining screw.
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Re: large lock
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2014, 07:59:16 PM »
Thanks. I think that will work on a club butt.










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Offline Curt Larsen

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Re: large lock
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2014, 05:07:57 PM »
If you consider one of the India locks, I've visited their shop in Udaipur, India.  It is quite an experience.  Their locks are indeed hand forged and one of these days when I figure out how to get a large video off my iphone I'll get Dennis to post it.  If you are interested in them, there are a bunch of them on ebay right now.  If you want to contact them, go through their ebay site and ask for Praddy.  I may have their email address somewhere.  You wouldn't believe this place.  I'm not sure how they spark as some have said they need a lot of tuning.  But, they are pretty inexpensive for you to experiment with.

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Re: large lock
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2014, 09:21:14 PM »
Where do you find them on ebay ?
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Re: large lock
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2014, 11:34:37 PM »
I wonder if it would be worth it to get one.  They are more the size I want.
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Re: large lock
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2014, 12:26:38 AM »
That lock looks like garbage.  Don't know how else to put it...

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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2014, 12:34:46 AM »
Hand Forged!! they say?  Pretty Bad  ::)
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Re: large lock
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2014, 04:38:31 AM »
I truly wonder  how different they are from the ones made 300 years ago.
The men in those shops are extremely poor and work for nothing. Given
what they have to work with they may not be to bad.  My oldest did some
missionary work there and said conditions are horrid to say the least.
With what we can do here with one of them just might be the thing to do.
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Re: large lock
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2014, 03:46:13 PM »
OK, I'll try to download some of my pics from my iphone with photos of the operation in India.  You won't like the operation, but it is a true wonder the way they produce them.

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Re: large lock
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2014, 04:18:38 PM »
That lock looks like garbage.  Don't know how else to put it...

While that may be true , I can tell you I have worked over a couple of the India locks  and while they are basic and rather crude , with a little  more work they  do end up  being reasonable
 I have even seen  hand forged locks  made here that IMO were a lot worse

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Re: large lock
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2014, 04:23:43 PM »
Consider taking the internals of a US made lock, and making a new plate for it. Might need to make a matching cock and frizzen, too.  >:(
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Re: large lock
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2014, 11:59:07 PM »
 I want to know how the pictured india made locks differs in size with a Brown Bess, or Charlesville?

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